[address-policy-wg] Re: 2006-02 Discussion Period extended until 19 March 2007 (IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy)

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> De: "Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" <Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at>
> Organización: UniVie - ACOnet
> Responder a: <Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at>
> Fecha: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:45:00 +0000
> Para: <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
> CC: "address-policy-wg at ripe.net" <address-policy-wg at ripe.net>
> Asunto: Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: 2006-02 Discussion Period extended until
> 19 March 2007 (IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy)
> 
> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> 
>> Hi Nick,
>> 
>> I believe it will be more appropriate to use in those cases ULA or
>> ULA-central (this needs to be rescued and moved up in the IETF process, as I
>> already voiced in ppml and in the last ARIN meeting).
>> 
>> However, the point here is to know if you will still support this policy
>> proposal "as is" right now, so we can finally get this done and then new
>> changes applied in the future, or if I need to send a new version which
>> doesn't include the "advertisement" bit, so we can vote for both ?
> 
> For obvious reasons I cannot speak for Nick, but my take here is - get it out
> through the door as it is, if there's support for it. Then we can start a next
> round to improve. The "real" issue at the moment is to change the address
> distribution policy, and not the fine-tuning of routing recommendations.

Ok, thanks.

> 
>> By the way, trying to answer also Wilfried's email, I think the "to whom" it
>> is advertised may be clarified as "The LIR must advertise *to the next hops*
>> the single address block through a single aggregated prefix.".
> 
> This is one aspect I am not so sure about: "to the next hops". There may well
> be very good reasons to advertise smaller portions to your next hop(s). And
> "we" really don't care about that, do we? The "real" issue imho is to make
> sure that just one prefix makes it to the core/DFZ/<your favourite term here>.
> 
> And as has been pointed out already, from the point of view of an RIR this is
> (should be?) more like a (strong) recommendation than a formal *address
> policy*
> aspect. If this recommendation is violated, the RIR doesn't have appropriate
> means to sanction anyway...

Well, I'm not sure I agree ... But I think it will be better to stop this
part of the thread here if we want to move ahead now :-)

> 
> Wilfried.
> 
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> De: Nick Hilliard <nick at inex.ie>
>>> Responder a: <address-policy-wg-admin at ripe.net>
>>> Fecha: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:14:07 +0000
>>> Para: <Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at>
>>> CC: "address-policy-wg at ripe.net" <address-policy-wg at ripe.net>
>>> Asunto: Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: 2006-02 Discussion Period extended until
>>> 19 March 2007 (IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Just as an editorial comment: We should also remove the "requirement" to
>>>> advertise the prefix. This is another (useless) artificial barrier to the
>>>> deployment of IPv6 as a generally avalable technology for building
>>>> networks.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to second Wilfred on this point.  Just because RIPE has allocated
>>> address space, this does not mean that the address space will be visible on
>>> the Internet at any particular stage.  RIPE NCC provides a general address
>>> space registry function, not just a public internet address registry
>>> function.
>>> 
>>> While there is an argument for using PI for private assignments, right now
>>> we can't do this in ipv6, because there is no ipv6 PI space yet.  But more
>>> importantly, there are situations where it may be appropriate for a private
>>> entity to register large amounts of v6 address space, where PI would be
>>> less appropriate due to sub-assignment issues.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nick Hilliard
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> 




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