[address-policy-wg] Just say *NO* to PI space -- or how to make it less destructive

At 10:44 09/05/2006, Nick Hilliard wrote:
>On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 10:03 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:
> > At 19:01 08/05/2006, Sascha Luck wrote:
> > >An arbitrary fee, specifically designed to block someone's entry into
> > >*any* market, is *illegal*, at least in any non-communist country that
> > >I know.
> > >
>[...]
> > Folks are going to come to terms with the fact that the v6 routing
> > table is going to have large numbers of entries.
>
>IPv6 will be much better aggregated than ipv4, because the allocation
>blocks are larger, and the requirement for LIRs to request multiple
>non-contiguous blocks of space will be much lower.  This necessarily
>means that ipv6 table growth is going to be lesser than the ipv4 table
>growth, which has also lagged behind hardware speed increases.  What's
>the problem here??

The fact that there are many more bits to allocate.

>As regards cost, PI space requires RIR administration, and that costs
>money.  Additionally, there needs to be a means for RIRs to legitimately
>reclaim PI space.  Charging a fee appears to be good way of dealing with
>both problems.  It doesn't need to be a huge amount of money, but money
>needs to be involved.
>
>I would like to suggest that after initial liaison with the local LIR,
>that the end-user relationship would then revert to the RIR.  The RIR
>would then be responsible for charging the end-user, and the LIR would
>be removed from the equation.
>
>This will require time and resources to set up, and that means that
>charging a fee will be completely justified.  This will fix two things
>which completely fail to make sense about the current RIPE (ipv4)
>assignment policy:
>
>      1. there is no default means of returning PI space to the RIR if
>         the end-user disappears
>      2. the LIR is effectively charged for the assignment, even if the
>         end-user moves to another LIR's domain.
>
>Problem #1 is a really serious issue and needs to be tackled urgently.

I think these are very good suggestions; there should be an annual fee for use of the PI block. This will fix the administrative aspects and should be retro-fitted to v4. Moving to the RIR administering the PI space also protects against the LIR 
disappearing.

-- Tim