[address-policy-wg] Allocation transfer

Hi Dave,

there are two ways possibe to accomplish this as I'd take the policies.

First would be as your question was:

You could apply for a (additional) /19 allocation and assign it to your
customer.
Later on when they've become a LIR themselves you can contact NCC for
transfer of this allocation to your customers LIR. I've not found any
detailed
information ad hoc but in document RIPE-301 (intended for mergers,
take-overs
and so on) is the possibility of transferring a resource mentioned without
any
direct relationship to closure or merger of the originating LIR.

Second is what I think would be the most 'correct' way to do this:

Some time ago (if my memory's right it's about 1 1/2 years ago) RIPE added
the
option for assignments as 'SUB-ALLOCATION' which on a quick glance is
exactly what you plan to do: hand a larger address range to another network
operator
for assignment to customers without him being a LIR himself. Just check
document
RIPE-324 for this.

Just check the documents (especially 324) and maybe contact lir-help for
their
opinion on this.

And please keep your hands off doing PI for this. Although /19 PI wouldn't
make
any difference to /19 PA within the routing tables, your customer won't be
able
to do any sub-assignments with registering them in the RIPE database using
PI.
I wouldn't want to get SPAM notifications for a /19 bunch of addresses only
because
I'm not able to add distinguished contacts for address ranges handed to
customers.

regards,

Marcus

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Bell" <dbell at redwingsat.com>
To: <address-policy-wg at ripe.net>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:17 AM
Subject: [address-policy-wg] Allocation transfer


> Hi all,
>
> uk.redwing is a small LIR, providing internet via satellite. We are in the
> process of hosting a new satellite platform, on behalf of another
> organisation, that is projecting a requirement for a /19 in the next 12
> months. This partner is not currently an LIR, but is considering it as a
> future option.
>
> What I am trying to determine is if uk.redwing applies for this /19
address
> block, and assigns it as PA space, will it be possible in the future for
us
> to hand it over to our partner, if/when they become an LIR themselves.
> Perhaps this is a case where PI addresses would be suitable, but I see
> warnings everywhere I look regarding the use of PI space.
>
> My apologies if this is not the correct place to post this question,
please
> let me know the best place to go if I'm on the wrong list.
>
>
>
> Thanks very much,
>
>
> Dave Bell
> Redwing Satellite Solutions Ltd.
>
>