[address-policy-wg] Policy proposal: #alpha: TLD Anycast Allocation Policy

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:41:18 +0000, Jon Lawrence wrote:
>> PI will come or IPv6 not fly. Face it.
Full Ack.

You won't force company decision makers to get back into the mercy
of a single ISP and become dependent from it.

Not with policies.

You would have to order the army ;-/

>We don't push them now ?? - even the big guys ??
>If even they don't push their routers hard, then even with phenomenal growth 
>over the next 5 years or so then what ever the current routers are then will 
>probably be able to cope.
>If the routers can cope then the size of the routing table becomes a non issue 
>- that's what I'm trying to say.
*Todays* routers *are* able to handle +20K prefixes.
And if they don't, the ISP has to *invest* into new gear.

An ISP is a company like any other company, if the market requests that
doors and windows should be build with 1mm precision, it won't help the
carpenters with old manufacturing equipment to make a policy which
defines that 5mm precision is good enough.

Face it: Customers demand provider independent address space and
multihoming, as a IPv6 provider you may either deliver some solution
or you won't sell your product. There is enough IPv4 PI competition ...

Best Regards
Oliver

P.s.:
- A good *Engineer* would think of a router beeing capable of
  >>1 Mio.  prefix entries with >>100K different paths.
  And yes, this is possible.
  And no, there are customers who need more than 640KB of memory,
  and yes, there are PC's with more than 640KB ...
- A good *Marketing Guy* would then sell Engineers products with
  the Label "IPv6-PI-ready" and would create a new
  "this is hip you must have it" *premium* IPv6 product which permits
  $customer to just *install* his IPv6 prefix at the ISP of his choice.
  If $customer is on vacation: Just install the prefix there.

Such "Customer: you should not have this and that" policies are
for the buerocrats (the bad ones, a good buerocrat would see its job
in assigning the "IPv6-PI-ready" label ;-) and the market has shown
that such policies don't survive.

Ceterum Censeo: Either IPv6 PI routing or IPv6 will die.



Oliver Bartels F+E + Bartels System GmbH + 85435 Erding, Germany
oliver at bartels.de + http://www.bartels.de + Tel. +49-8122-9729-0