[address-policy-wg] Policy proposal: #gamma IPv6 Initial Allocation Criteria
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Tim Streater
tim.streater at dante.org.uk
Thu Apr 14 15:30:55 CEST 2005
At 12:51 14/04/2005, Jeroen Massar wrote: >On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 11:49 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: >> At 19:25 07/04/2005, Gert Doering wrote: >> >Hi, >> > >> >On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 10:22:49PM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: >> >> as stealth PI) I'm keeping an open mind. Still, just repeating "200 is >> >> a problem" to eachother doesn't help, we need to know where the 200 >> >> limit gets in the way in the real world. >> > >> >People are not making IPv6 allocation requests because they assume that >> >they won't have 200 active IPv6 customers in two years time. >> > >> >Those that *do* make requests usually find a way to word their "plan" >> >in a way that the request is granted, but a fair number of smaller ISPs >> >have told me that they didn't send in a request at all, due to not >> >wishing to tell lies. >> >> We are probably in this camp. We manage two transit networks, >> one of which is intended to manage itself in 2-3 years. >> I was able to get PI v4 space to address its PoPs, but the existing >> policies won't allow me to do the same for v6, so no point in applying. > >Question, do you need: > * Globally Unique Address Space >or: > * Globally Unique Address Space that is meant to > be in the global routing tables(*1). > >> Or does a transit network count as an exchange? > >IMHO, one can see it indeed as an exchange, in which case you will get >the first option from the above question. But as it is a IX block it is >not supposed to be in the routing tables as a single /48 and thus might >not be globally routed. It does need to be globally routeable. Our customer networks may have access to some of our infrastructure items. Now, they could make a hole in their policy and accept a /48, but exceptions are best avoided. In addition, we may host our web-servers at a PoP, and occasionally host third-party workstations at PoPs when we collaborate with the third parties on research projects. Cheers, -- Tim
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