[address-policy-wg] Re: RIPE Access Policy Change Request to allow allocations to critical infrastructure
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Jeff Williams
jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Thu Jan 8 22:39:41 CET 2004
Michael and all, By the definitions you are attempting to quote, it would seem to me that many ISp's would fit as well as Google and other public/private services on the net provide or offer. > >I believe that your argumentation holds; "critical infrastructure" is > >something very personal, and "public"...what's public? Isn't google > >a public service, too? Or Yahoo? Or ebay? Or ... > > People seem to be confused about the meaning of "critical infrastructure" > so I decided to see what Google has to say. The first thing it comes up > with is an American government organization called the Department for > Homeland Security. On their question and answer page they say this: > http://www.ciao.gov/publicaffairs/qsandas.htm > > 1.) What is a critical infrastructure? > > The USA Patriot Act defines critical infrastructures as those > "systems and assets, whether physical or virtual, so vital to the > United States that the incapacity or destruction of such systems > and assets would have a debilitating impact on security, national > economic security, national public health or safety, or any > combination of those matters." > > That's not something very personal. It is something that is > important to a large number of people. > > Here's another one: http://www.atis.org/tg2k/_critical_infrastructure.html > > critical infrastructure: 1. Elements of a system that are so vital > that disabling any of them would incapacitate the entire system. > > Disabling .de would make the Internet unusable for millions of > people in Germany and would affect millions of German-speaking > people around the world. > > When some part of the infrastructure of the Internet is considered > to be critical, the people responsible for it will build it so that > it can never fail. They do this by applying fault tolerance techniques. > Anycasting DNS is a fault tolerance technique. DENIC is asking for > a policy that understands the need for fault tolerance when an > organization is managing part of the Internet's critical infrastructure. > > If this policy focuses on the fault tolerance technique then it > is doing the wrong things. Policies are not about technology. > RIPE policies are political agreements that balance the needs > of everyone in the RIPE community. This policy needs to focus > on defining which kinds of "critical infrastructure" are important > enough for the whole community to justify special allocations. > > > Es gibt Luegen, verdammte Luegen und RIPE-141(-219)-Netzantraege. > > Translated: There are lies, damned lies and RIPE-141 request forms. > > --Michael Dillon Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!) "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" - Pierre Abelard "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801
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