[address-policy-wg] Summary of the PI Task Force's recent discussions
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Gert Doering
gert at space.net
Mon Aug 11 12:29:54 CEST 2003
Hi, On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:24:14PM +0200, Joao Damas wrote: > > People are requesting *multiple* PI blocks because they can't get a PA > > allocation, and that seems to be just wrong to me. > > Just to spell it out clearly: > > - Is it people who do not meet the minimum allocation size for PA? I > guess these ones would ask for a single PI assignment? The ones I've heard about is "people that are startup ISPs, and still too small for PA". So they get a PI (because that's all they can get), and when that's full, they get another PI, and so on, until they can demonstrate "utilization of a /21" - and then they go for PA. They are effectively using PI as a "easier to get PA substitute" - which is wrong, but points at a serious problem in the policy. > - Is it people who find it to be so much hassle to get an allocation > that they end up requesting multiple PI blocks with the same amount of > addresses? After a while, they move from your first category to this one... > - People who have multiple sites and if they get a normal PA block will > need to split it and end up with a bunch of non-routable sites? As far as I know, not this. [..] > One last thing. There is something that makes it unusually attractive > to have PI space: it usually comes from "old" blocks (192/8, 193-195/8) > where you don't have to bother with anyone filtering you if you have at > least a /24 (damn easy to justify). But this only works if you actually *get* a /24. So people that run two servers have to lie to the NCC to get a /24 (instead of a /29 or a /28), which is also a hint at a broken policy. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 56535 (56318) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster at Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299
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