From pk at DENIC.DE  Sat Apr 14 22:52:54 2012
From: pk at DENIC.DE (Peter Koch)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:52:54 +0200
Subject: [acm-tf] RIPE 64 - Do We Need To Meet?
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Brian,

> As 2011-06 is still, effectively, in discussion phase, awaiting new text 
> from Tobias, I'm not sure if there's any reason for the TF to meet at 
> RIPE 64. If folks think differently, let me know and I'll arrange a meeting.

apologies for the late reply.  I'd be available for a meeting Monday morning.
It appears to me that some of the blatant misconceptions about correctness
and compliance that have surfaced on the anti-abuse-wg list recently
might be relevant to the 2011-06 proposal.  But then I know it's late
for logistics and there's no _urgent_ need for a meeting.

-Peter



From brian.nisbet at heanet.ie  Sun Apr 15 08:29:29 2012
From: brian.nisbet at heanet.ie (Brian Nisbet)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 07:29:29 +0100
Subject: [acm-tf] RIPE 64 - Do We Need To Meet?
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On 14/04/2012 21:52, Peter Koch wrote:
> Brian,
>
>> As 2011-06 is still, effectively, in discussion phase, awaiting new text
>> from Tobias, I'm not sure if there's any reason for the TF to meet at
>> RIPE 64. If folks think differently, let me know and I'll arrange a meeting.
>
> apologies for the late reply.  I'd be available for a meeting Monday morning.
> It appears to me that some of the blatant misconceptions about correctness
> and compliance that have surfaced on the anti-abuse-wg list recently
> might be relevant to the 2011-06 proposal.  But then I know it's late
> for logistics and there's no _urgent_ need for a meeting.

Thanks for that Peter. I think it is too late to try to organise 
something for tomorrow morning, but I'm sure there'll be the opportunity 
to discuss things at the meeting and perhaps organise a conference call 
in the coming weeks?

A new version of 2011-06 should be released to the community soon and 
there is an agenda slot to discuss it on Thursday. There also seems to 
be movement again in favour of a policy regarding verification. I say 
this, of course, without implying anything from my point of view or even 
if I think that consensus can be reached, but voices are being raised again.

I think, either way, sharing your thoughts on the misconceptions would 
be useful to the TF at the very least.

Thanks and see some of you in Ljubljana very soon.

Brian.