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20040923 08:24:40 | webmaster@jabber | The abuse-c presentation has been up since yesterday 20040923 08:24:49 | marcoh@irc | ok, thanxx 20040923 08:25:57 | webmaster@jabber | Presentations at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-49/presentations/index.html#db 20040923 08:26:16 | webmaster@jabber | Current Speaker: Shane Kerr (RIPE NCC) 20040923 08:26:42 | marcoh@irc | (on database update) 20040923 08:27:00 | webmaster@jabber | Yeah ;-) 20040923 08:39:08 | reaBcisaB@irc | nickname changed from reaBcisaB to BasicBaer 20040923 08:39:08 | BasicBaer@irc | hello everyone 20040923 08:39:49 | BasicBaer@irc | re 20040923 08:42:58 | marcoh@irc | webmaster: subject of my presentation is possible solutions for registering abuse-contacts 20040923 08:43:48 | marcoh@irc | or abuse-c roundup in short 20040923 08:45:00 | webmaster@jabber | Presentation renamed 20040923 08:45:52 | marcoh@irc | thanx 20040923 08:46:30 | webmaster@jabber | Current Speaker: Leo Vegoda (RIPE NCC) on ERX 20040923 08:51:29 | marcoh@irc | btw, did anybody noticed Leo's presentation says ripe-48, amsterdam ? 20040923 08:52:33 | rumy@jabber | rumy has become available 20040923 08:52:54 | marcoh@irc | hi rumy 20040923 08:53:01 | marcoh@irc | feeling bettter ? 20040923 08:53:11 | marcoh@irc | or still no voice ? 20040923 08:54:17 | rumy@jabber | much better. just a bit husky 20040923 08:54:18 | rumy@jabber | 20040923 08:54:35 | BasicBaer@irc | marcoh: what time will you be on? 20040923 08:54:48 | marcoh@irc | late 20040923 08:54:58 | BECHA@irc | rumy: did you talk with shane about irrtools presentation? 20040923 08:55:01 | marcoh@irc | almost last agenda item 20040923 08:55:14 | BasicBaer@irc | nice yawn, who is she? ;) 20040923 08:55:47 | BasicBaer@irc | marcoh: any chance there might be a consesus this time? 20040923 08:56:00 | marcoh@irc | there is going to be 20040923 08:56:19 | marcoh@irc | requirement from the chair is to make a decision today 20040923 08:56:36 | marcoh@irc | also see rodney's mail to db-list 20040923 08:56:38 | rumy@jabber | becha: only very shortly 20040923 08:56:40 | BasicBaer@irc | *sigh* at last 20040923 08:56:44 | rumy@jabber | did he reply to your mail? 20040923 08:57:11 | marcoh@irc | Basic: it's only 9 months 20040923 08:57:20 | rumy@jabber | his presentation is now 20040923 08:57:25 | BECHA@irc | rumy: he did reply, saying that he already did a presentation to the routing-wg, without mentioning continued training 20040923 08:57:41 | BECHA@irc | but maybe he will do the presentation again - NOW! 20040923 08:58:06 | BECHA@irc | rumy: if he forgets it again, can you add a word at the end of his talk?? 20040923 08:58:08 | marcoh@irc | current speaker: Shane Kerr (RIPE NCC) on IRRToolset 20040923 08:58:27 | webmaster@jabber | Marco: you beat me to it by one mili second 20040923 08:58:32 | marcoh@irc | hehehe 20040923 08:58:41 | BasicBaer@irc | marcoh: yes, 9 month ;) i am waiting now for 9 month to set up the objects in a propper way ;) and build automation around it 20040923 08:59:48 | marcoh@irc | don't complain to me.. 20040923 09:00:17 | marcoh@irc | I'm also not happy with the way it was handled and deferred to the mailinglist several times 20040923 09:00:52 | marcoh@irc | ripe-48 was a mess, very bad communication on all parts 20040923 09:05:36 | webmaster@jabber | Is Shane going to present the RRCourse presentation or Arno? 20040923 09:06:07 | rumy@jabber | actually i more or less agreed with nigel he'd do it... 20040923 09:06:07 | rumy@jabber | 20040923 09:07:18 | webmaster@jabber | :-) 20040923 09:07:23 | webmaster@jabber | D'oh! 20040923 09:08:20 | BasicBaer@irc | marcoh: ACK 20040923 09:08:44 | rumy@jabber | apparently we agreed to disagree. or disagreed to agree. or something :) 20040923 09:08:48 | marcoh@irc | last time we see shane ? 20040923 09:08:50 | webmaster@jabber | Current Speaker: Rumy 'husky' Kanis (RIPE NCC) on Routing Registry Training Courses 20040923 09:08:54 | rumy@jabber | anyway... it's done 20040923 09:09:02 | marcoh@irc | current speaker: Shane Kerr (RIPE NCC) on CRISP 20040923 09:09:26 | BECHA@irc | hey rumy! you are at the same typing and speaking! well done! 20040923 09:09:29 | marcoh@irc | webmaster: there is a large delay :P 20040923 09:09:42 | rumy@jabber | multitasking :) 20040923 09:11:02 | marcoh@irc | rumy, I agreed to act as a relay for this session. But it's getting difficult during my own presentation 20040923 09:11:15 | webmaster@jabber | http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-49/presentations/ripe49-db-crisp-update.pdf 20040923 09:11:19 | marcoh@irc | can you take it over and relay during the abuse-c stuff 20040923 09:11:27 | rumy@jabber | hehehe :) 20040923 09:11:36 | rumy@jabber | no problem. I owe you that one :) 20040923 09:11:44 | marcoh@irc | thanxx 20040923 09:14:18 | BasicBaer@irc | rumy you will regret it ;) 20040923 09:15:04 | rumy@jabber | uh ohhh 20040923 09:15:11 | rumy@jabber | why is that? 20040923 09:15:14 | marcoh@irc | Basic: take it easy :P 20040923 09:15:32 | marcoh@irc | rumy: kind of a 'hot' topic 20040923 09:16:24 | rumy@jabber | I hope most people who want to speak up are in the room :) and not on jabber 20040923 09:16:37 | rumy@jabber | where are you basic? 20040923 09:16:45 | BasicBaer@irc | marcoh: I do ;) or I would sit there with you ;) 20040923 09:17:01 | BasicBaer@irc | it's just an annoying nag in my head about this topic 20040923 09:21:40 | BasicBaer@irc | rumy: in my office 20040923 09:22:29 | BasicBaer@irc | meaning in good old germany 20040923 09:23:13 | bruce@irc | bruce has joined the channel. 20040923 09:23:34 | webmaster@jabber | Hallo Bruce, just in time for the coffee break 20040923 09:24:09 | webmaster@jabber | /me goes for a ciggie 20040923 09:24:16 | BECHA@irc | hey, where's the sound gone?! 20040923 09:25:22 | webmaster@jabber | I guess they want to spare us the Chill Out Moods muzak 20040923 09:25:53 | webmaster@jabber | It's actually better to have some music, so we know the sound is working guys! 20040923 09:35:52 | webmaster@jabber | Music is back 20040923 09:36:01 | webmaster@jabber | Days by the Kinks, cool! 20040923 09:37:19 | webmaster@jabber | Whoa! Steppenwolf! 20040923 09:40:49 | webmaster@jabber | Tremeloes, Here comes my baby 20040923 09:44:00 | webmaster@jabber | The Monkees 20040923 09:44:19 | rumy@jabber | wow, i'm impressed! you know them all! 20040923 09:45:14 | webmaster@jabber | too much radio.... 20040923 09:45:42 | peter@jabber | peter has left 20040923 09:45:53 | BasicBaer@irc | webmaster: in your young days? *eg* 20040923 09:46:15 | marcoh@irc | webmaster: addeed a slide, can you update the website ? 20040923 09:46:24 | marcoh@irc | (it's in your mailbox) 20040923 09:46:26 | webmaster@jabber | Smoy Robinson, Tears of A Clown 20040923 09:46:31 | webmaster@jabber | smoy/smokey 20040923 09:46:44 | webmaster@jabber | Yes marco 20040923 09:46:52 | marcoh@irc | great 20040923 09:47:28 | webmaster@jabber | hmm, not there yet... 20040923 09:47:31 | webmaster@jabber | inc 20040923 09:47:34 | webmaster@jabber | D'oh! 20040923 09:49:23 | webmaster@jabber | David Cassidy, How can I be sure 20040923 09:49:43 | webmaster@jabber | Or is it? 20040923 09:52:05 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | good morning 20040923 09:53:11 | webmaster@jabber | Mornin' 20040923 09:53:32 | webmaster@jabber | David Essex, Rock On 20040923 09:53:32 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | missed the first db-wg session 20040923 09:53:46 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | is db-wg done completely with agenda? 20040923 09:53:59 | marcoh@irc | nope 20040923 09:54:03 | marcoh@irc | 2 items left 20040923 09:54:05 | webmaster@jabber | No, we still get Marco H. with the abuse-c 20040923 09:54:06 | marcoh@irc | abuse-c 20040923 09:54:18 | marcoh@irc | and AOB/input from other WG's 20040923 09:54:56 | peter@jabber | peter has become available 20040923 09:55:03 | marcoh@irc | for the dutchies: 20040923 09:55:04 | marcoh@irc | http://teletekst.nos.nl/gif/109-01.html 20040923 09:55:08 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | hmpf, so I missed the interesting things :-( 20040923 09:55:34 | marcoh@irc | (everybody else, famous dutch singer and known alcoholic died) 20040923 09:56:09 | webmaster@jabber | How tasteful then that they are playing Spirit in the Sky by Norman Greenbaum 20040923 09:56:30 | BECHA@irc | J: what's his name?? 20040923 09:56:37 | webmaster@jabber | Andre Hazes 20040923 09:56:51 | bruce@irc | in the albert cuyp, or am I misreading? 20040923 09:57:14 | webmaster@jabber | He started singing in the Albert Cuyp 20040923 09:57:24 | bruce@irc | ah, definitely misreading. 20040923 09:57:43 | bruce@irc | not that the current crop of albert cuyp singers are any good. 20040923 09:57:53 | webmaster@jabber | He died in hospital I think, it says "He was comitted yesterday" 20040923 09:58:14 | webmaster@jabber | No, I quit some time ago 20040923 09:59:40 | webmaster@jabber | Next song Moody Blues, Nights in white satin 20040923 10:01:54 | webmaster@jabber | Next up: Marco H: IRT / Abuse-c roundup 20040923 10:02:03 | rumy@jabber | I heard he didn't die yet? he's in hospital with pneunomia? 20040923 10:02:03 | rumy@jabber | 20040923 10:02:24 | webmaster@jabber | No he died this morning 20040923 10:03:31 | webmaster@jabber | http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-49/presentations/ripe49-db-abuse-c.pdf 20040923 10:04:18 | rumy@jabber | here it says something else: http://nu.nl/news.jsp?n=414904&c=60 20040923 10:05:03 | webmaster@jabber | It's a merketing thing ;-) 20040923 10:05:10 | webmaster@jabber | merketing/marketing 20040923 10:11:54 | BasicBaer@irc | problem is, that the tools authors wo write spam notifier 20040923 10:12:09 | BasicBaer@irc | are not really capable of handlind all possible ways 20040923 10:12:14 | rumy@jabber | want me to relay? 20040923 10:12:26 | BasicBaer@irc | they need exactly one way to get the correct mail address to send spam notificatinos to 20040923 10:12:33 | BasicBaer@irc | rumy, would be nice, yes 20040923 10:14:49 | BasicBaer@irc | thanks rumy 20040923 10:14:54 | vlevigneron@jabber | vlevigneron has become available 20040923 10:15:03 | rumy@jabber | anytime :) 20040923 10:15:30 | BasicBaer@irc | THAT is a good idea 20040923 10:16:54 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | indeed 20040923 10:17:03 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | there are already such tools AFAIK 20040923 10:17:11 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | but having RIPE to provide it is better 20040923 10:17:26 | BasicBaer@irc | yes, it gives the ripe the possebility to control the code 20040923 10:17:33 | BasicBaer@irc | and to reeturn the right addresses 20040923 10:17:44 | rumy@jabber | you mean RIPE NCC to provide it? 20040923 10:17:58 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | more direct control from the operators over what is being presented to the complainees 20040923 10:17:59 | BasicBaer@irc | ripe ncc to provide the whois result 20040923 10:18:04 | BasicBaer@irc | you put in the ip address 20040923 10:18:06 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | rumy: yes, the RIPE DB 20040923 10:18:11 | BasicBaer@irc | and get the abuse contact 20040923 10:18:13 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | or some adjacent tool 20040923 10:18:15 | BasicBaer@irc | nothing else 20040923 10:18:24 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | finger 123.123.123.123@abuse-contact.ripe.net 20040923 10:18:26 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | :_-P 20040923 10:18:41 | BasicBaer@irc | what ever 20040923 10:19:12 | BasicBaer@irc | may even be telnet 20040923 10:19:26 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | yeah, was just an example 20040923 10:20:05 | BasicBaer@irc | irt stands for incidnt reponse. is spam no incident? 20040923 10:20:26 | rumy@jabber | so if I get it right you think it's a good idea. Anything I should relay here? 20040923 10:20:33 | colin@irc | incidnt reponse team 20040923 10:20:47 | BasicBaer@irc | rumy. no but maybe tell shane later ;) 20040923 10:20:55 | rumy@jabber | will do :) 20040923 10:21:52 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | agreed 20040923 10:22:01 | BasicBaer@irc | mani problem with irt is the mandatory public keys 20040923 10:22:05 | BasicBaer@irc | with them gone the usage will rise 20040923 10:22:05 | BasicBaer@irc | at least I will use them then 20040923 10:23:09 | BasicBaer@irc | it should NOT go into personal objects 20040923 10:23:39 | BasicBaer@irc | e.g. in a company line the one i work for there are different groups 20040923 10:23:50 | BasicBaer@irc | abuse is a department of its own 20040923 10:23:53 | rumy@jabber | if there is anything to relay, please let me know and put it in one sentence if possible 20040923 10:24:00 | BasicBaer@irc | they have nothing to do with maintaining ripe db entries 20040923 10:24:09 | BasicBaer@irc | ok ;) 20040923 10:24:29 | rumy@jabber | but a report of this will also go to relevant people, so your points are taken into account 20040923 10:24:40 | BasicBaer@irc | i know 20040923 10:24:51 | rumy@jabber | good :) 20040923 10:26:11 | BasicBaer@irc | please relay: if the whoisdb porvides a interface to just return an abuse contact for a given ip adress we do not have to modify the whois replays 20040923 10:26:13 | rumy@jabber | consensus on jabber as well? 20040923 10:26:52 | BasicBaer@irc | yes 20040923 10:27:16 | rumy@jabber | (waiting for my turn:-) 20040923 10:27:34 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | one sec, catching up 20040923 10:28:15 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | yes, role objects like IRT should be the way, NOT person records 20040923 10:28:41 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | and yes, there should be a seperate interface to get an abuse contact 20040923 10:29:17 | BasicBaer@irc | rumy: right, replys 20040923 10:29:38 | rumy@jabber | the minute delay thing is very annoying... we need to look into that 20040923 10:29:47 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | rumy: ACK 20040923 10:29:50 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | and thx 20040923 10:30:07 | bruce@irc | delay is unaviodable :( 20040923 10:30:21 | rumy@jabber | :-( 20040923 10:30:30 | rumy@jabber | can it be reduced somehow? 20040923 10:30:31 | webmaster@jabber | Come on Bruce, do your magic :-> 20040923 10:30:34 | bruce@irc | roughly 40 seconds for the encoding, and ut the stream distribution is only a second or so. 20040923 10:30:57 | jhma@jabber | jhma has become available 20040923 10:31:35 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | oh, there is 40sec delay for the encoding?? 20040923 10:31:55 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | I thought rumy meant the time from "yes, please relay" and actually getting the mic 20040923 10:32:17 | rumy@jabber | I meant the webcast 20040923 10:33:18 | rumy@jabber | you guys see things about a minute after they actually happen :-) 20040923 10:34:58 | BasicBaer@irc | i'd like to put abuse contacts in (but I have to modify 37.000 inetnums) 20040923 10:37:29 | uk3@irc | uk3 has joined the channel. 20040923 10:37:57 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | /me wonders what causes _40_ sec delay... 20040923 10:38:07 | BasicBaer@irc | mpeg encoding?! 20040923 10:38:18 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | given it is static, it doesn't seem to be CPU power problem, as this would make the delay longer and longer 20040923 10:38:28 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | so realtime is given 20040923 10:39:14 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | BasicBaer: yeah, but either the encoder can cope with realtime encoding (then the in-out-latency stays the same) or doesn't (the the latency gets always higher) 20040923 10:39:36 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | BasicBaer: as the latency is constant (40sec), I wonder what causes this static latency :-) 20040923 10:39:36 | sleinen@jabber | sleinen has become available 20040923 10:41:21 | BasicBaer@irc | ok, so we have consensus. finally! 20040923 10:41:25 | BasicBaer@irc | then i can have lunch 20040923 10:41:36 | BasicBaer@irc | bye for now 20040923 10:41:42 | webmaster@jabber | Bye 20040923 10:41:47 | marcoh@irc | by 20040923 10:44:31 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | question to relay: I'm not really sure wether this is still an issue, but I noticed problems with PGP/GnuPG-signed, MIME-encapsulated, _nested_ DB updates via auto-dbm@ripe.net. The robot didn't seem to be able to cope with multiple signatures on the same object, which are sometimes necessary to update objects as different maintainers need to give authorization (e.g. creating route objects needing auth from the aut-num and from the route tree). Is there any work going on to improve auto-dbm's capability to handle PGP/GnuPG signed updates properly also in multi-signature scenarios? 20040923 10:44:49 | webmaster@jabber | Apologies for the presentation not being on-line. I haven't received it. 20040923 10:45:05 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | I have to say that it's quite some time ago that I noticed the problem, so this might to be a non-issue nowadays. 20040923 10:45:31 | rumy@jabber | want me to mention your name or anonymous? 20040923 10:45:31 | rumy@jabber | 20040923 10:45:34 | jhma@jabber | jhma has left 20040923 10:46:55 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | rumy: of course you can mention my name 20040923 10:47:20 | rumy@jabber | marco h has taken over again (i can rest my voice now:-) 20040923 10:47:23 | marcoh@irc | Daniel: can it wait until the questions part ? 20040923 10:47:31 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | marcoh: of course 20040923 10:47:35 | marcoh@irc | ok 20040923 10:53:42 | bruce@irc | daniel: we have the standard encoder, and we could make it go faster if we weren't wanting to supply multiple bitrates. 20040923 10:53:54 | bruce@irc | (standard encoder with w2k) 20040923 10:54:48 | dominic@jabber | dominic has become available 20040923 10:55:21 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | bruce: hm, I still don't understand the technical reason for the latency. but that's probably just me needing to get a clue about streaming technology ;) 20040923 10:55:24 | marcoh@irc | Daniel: sorry for the delay, don't want to interrupt this discussion 20040923 10:55:30 | vlevigneron@jabber | vlevigneron has left 20040923 10:55:55 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | marcoh: no problem! this discussion really shouldn't be interrupted, totally agreed 20040923 10:56:12 | bruce@irc | daniel: 'we haven't paid for the super-duper version' 20040923 10:57:10 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | bruce: ah... so it's probably just an artificial delay introduced to make you buy the full, uncrippled version. 20040923 10:57:48 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | I can see a technical reason for a few (1-3) seconds delay to optimize differential data calculation, but not 40sec ;> 20040923 10:58:40 | rumy@jabber | noted 20040923 10:58:40 | rumy@jabber | 20040923 10:58:51 | rumy@jabber | will be reported 20040923 11:01:01 | dominic@jabber | dominic has left 20040923 11:02:32 | marcoh@irc | daniel: got that, should be fixed 20040923 11:02:39 | tk_@jabber | tk_ has become available 20040923 11:02:40 | marcoh@irc | if not mail dbm 20040923 11:02:52 | Pieterjan@jabber | Pieterjan has become available 20040923 11:02:57 | marcoh@irc | quick one this 20040923 11:03:03 | marcoh@irc | 30 minutes left 20040923 11:03:15 | webmaster@jabber | That's ripe-dbm@ripe.net 20040923 11:03:16 | marcoh@irc | anybody wants to have lunch ? 20040923 11:03:25 | marcoh@irc | jeroen: thanks 20040923 11:03:25 | webmaster@jabber | Sessiosn ends 20040923 11:03:32 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | well, I _did_ send a mail to ripe-dbm but with no outcome ;) 20040923 11:03:44 | rumy@jabber | jeroen: i just asked for the slides, they will be uploaded 20040923 11:03:44 | rumy@jabber | 20040923 11:03:45 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | (not to be relayed, doesn't add anything *g*) 20040923 11:03:48 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | thanks marco 20040923 11:04:06 | webmaster@jabber | Did you get a ticket number? 20040923 11:04:12 | webmaster@jabber | tx rumy 20040923 11:04:18 | Daniel Roesen@jabber | webmaster: have to wade thru archives 20040923 11:04:28 | rumy@jabber | rumy has left 20040923 11:04:36 | tk_@jabber | tk_ has left 20040923 11:05:02 | BECHA@irc | BECHA has left the channel. 20040923 11:05:09 | webmaster@jabber | Wil do 20040923 11:05:14 | webmaster@jabber | wil/will 20040923 11:05:37 | webmaster@jabber | /me is signing off 20040923 11:05:39 | webmaster@jabber | webmaster has left 20040923 11:05:55 | Pieterjan@jabber | Pieterjan has left 20040923 11:05:56 | colin@irc | colin has left the channel. 20040923 11:18:50 | riku@irc | riku quit IRC altogether 20040923 11:44:40 | peter@jabber | peter has left 20040923 12:46:29 | sleinen@jabber | sleinen has left 20040923 12:49:32 | peter@jabber | peter has become available 20040923 12:49:56 | peter@jabber | peter has left 20040923 13:03:26 | marcoh@irc | marcoh has left the channel. 20040923 13:44:20 | uk3@irc | uk3 quit IRC altogether 20040923 17:04:27 | BasicBaer@irc | bye 20040923 17:04:28 | BasicBaer@irc | nickname changed from BasicBaer to reaBcisaB 20040924 06:11:40 | reaBcisaB@irc | nickname changed from reaBcisaB to BasicBaer 20040924 06:11:40 | BasicBaer@irc | hello everyone 20040924 13:03:50 | bruce@irc | bruce quit IRC altogether 20040924 13:03:50 | BasicBaer@irc | BasicBaer quit IRC altogether 20040924 13:24:32 | bruce@irc | bruce has joined the channel. 20040924 13:24:32 | BasicBaer@irc | BasicBaer has joined the channel.