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TLD Working Group
RIPE 30 TLD-WG Minutes
Place: Stockholm, Sweden
Date: 18 May 1998
Chair: Marcel Schneider
Scribe: Vittore Casarosa Adopted as the minutes of the RIPE 30
TLD-WG session at RIPE 32
1. Administrivia
Marcel Schneider chaired the meeting as Niall O'Reilly was not able to attend.
Vittore Casarosa was the appointed scribe
2. Matters arising from RIPE 29
There were no minutes available from RIPE-29 so this item was skipped.
3. Review of workplan
IANA and stability of the root
RIPE CENTR took the lead in preparing an "official" answer to the
Green Paper (available at http://www.ripe.net/centr/docs/response-green.html);
RIPE CENTR is also taking the lead in coordinating a response to Jon Postel's
proposal. TLD coordination project
this item is being discussed in RIPE CENTR. Documentation and alignment of
practices
this item is being discussed in RIPE CENTR. gTLDs
increasing the number of gTLDs does not seem to solve the main problem, i.e.
Trade Mark disputes; the relationship between gTLDs and ccTLDs is being further
discussed in RIPE CENTR. Cooperation with Governments
this item is being discussed in RIPE CENTR. Charging (within each ccTLD)
this item is being discussed in RIPE CENTR. Competition (among ccTLDs)
this item is being discussed in RIPE CENTR. Arbitration
the policy for arbitration is being set by each ccTLD; this item is being
further discussed in RIPE CENTR. Emerging Registries
the best way to provide support to emerging registries is to put them in
contact with other established registries; RIPE, RIPE NCC and RIPE CENTR cannot
provide advice or consultancy, but can only provide information; a good source
for information gathering can be the Workshops organized by RIPE CENTR.
Legal
this item is mostly related to Arbitration, and could be of interest also to
RIPE NCC; this item is being further discussed in RIPE CENTR.
4. Presentation on RIPE CENTR
Fay Howard presented the establishing of RIPE CENTR, a "club" of
ccTLD administrators of countries in the area of interest of RIPE; complete
information on RIPE CENTR and current activities can be found at
http://www.ripe.net/centr/index.html.
5. WHOIS proposal
Marcel Schneider presented a proposal to protect the "distribution"
of data contained in the WHOIS data base. In essence, the bulk use of WHOIS
data (owned by the end user who provided the information), should be allowed
only under contract (possibly involving money) between the potential "bulk
user" (e.g. to create mailing lists)and the Registry. There was a
considerable debate on the subject, the two major points being: 1) it would be
unfair to "sell" data belonging to the end user, without his or her
involvement; 2) it would be difficult to discriminate between
"bulk/commercial" access to the DB and legitimate occasional use. No
final position on the proposal was reached during the meeting.
6. Any Other Business
A question was raised whether the trend for naming rules under ccTLD domains
was going to be more liberal or more restrictive. After some debate and some
examples provided by UK, Switzerland, Italy and Greece and others, it appeared
that the general perception was for the naming policy to become more liberal.
This item is going to be further discussed in RIPE CENTR.
7. Review of work plan
At the end of the meeting the work plan was reviewed again to see if any
changes should be done. With the establishment of RIPE CENTR, the major point
debated was which items should be dealt with within RIPE CENTR and which items
should be dealt with within the TLD-WG. A clear statement was made by Daniel
Karrenberg that RIPE NCC is presently involved in RIPE CENTR only to get it
established, but RIPE CENTR should become "self sufficient" as soon
as possible. RIPE NCC does not intend to get involved in ccTLD administration.
A general statement was made by Boudewijn Nederkoorn that TLD-WG shoud deal
mainly with technical matters (as others working groups in RIPE do) and RIPE
CENTR should deal mainly with policy and TLD administration matters. After some
further debate, the conclusion was that more investigation and more firm
proposals were needed, and therefore the TLD-WG working plan will be updated at
the next meeting (RIPE 31).
8. Close
Having no other business, the meeting was closed.
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