Routing Working Group Minutes from RIPE 48

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RIPE48, Amsterdam
Routing Working Group - 5 May 2004; 09:00-10:30

A. Preliminaries
Joao Damas, ISC

	Introduction
		Afternoon session cancelled
	Participants' list
		Circulated
	Volunteering of scribe
		James Aldridge, RIPE NCC
	Jabber/IRC interface
		Question to WG whether NCC should provide Jabber "scribe"
		ACTION: R48.1 - RIPE NCC to investigate this possibility for 
			RIPE49.
	Agenda bashing
		No additional items
	RIPE 47 minutes
		circulated shortly after R47
		No comments -> final minutes
	Actions from earlier meetings
		None

B. Global network mobility
John Bender & Don Bowman, "Connexion by Boeing"

	<Link to presentation still awaited>

	What is "Connexion by Boeing"? An 802.11b "hot spot" ~10 km above the
	earth, travelling at 900 km/hr :-)

	John and Don gave an overview of Boeing's Internet in the Air offering
	and some of the technical aspects of its design and operation.

	Questions from WG:
	- Simon Leinen: What about prefix-length filtering? (offline discussion
		needed)
	- Iljitsch van Beijnum: Have scalability issues been taken into
	  	account? (yes)
		You're doing all the things you're not supposed to do ;-)
		alternatives to avoid deaggregation, etc?
	- Joao Damas: Address policy aspects of using one /24 per aircraft?
		- large aircraft but not just for passengers.
		RF interferance aspects? Certified!

C. Routing Workshop report 
Goetz Lichtwald, Universitat Karlsruhe: (20 min)

	Links:	http://www.tm.uka.de/idrws/
		http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/ripe48-routing-idrws.pdf

	A brief summary of the 2nd Inter-Domain Routing Workshop (IDRWS) held
	at the RIPE NCC's offices the weekend before RIPE48.

D. RIPE NCC: RIS update 
Matthew Williams (20 min)

	Link: 
	http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/ripe48-routing-ris.pdf

	Matthew presented an update on the RIPE NCC's Routing Information 
	Service project.

E. Raising RPSLng Awareness
Carlos Friacas 

	<Link to presentation still awaited>

	- Importance of RPSLng
	- Current status
	- What do we need?
	- Open Issues
		- stabilisation of draft (going to last call)
		- whoisd / IRR toolset / ...
		ACTION: R48.2 - RIPE NCC (Shane/SED) to notify community of
		IRR Toolset (etc.) development schedule

F. Demo of BGPlay
Lorenzo Colitti, RIPE NCC/Uni. Roma Tre

	link: http://www.ris.ripe.net/bgplay/

	Lorenzo demonstrated "BGPlay", a tool developed at the University of
	Roma Tre and hosted at the RIPE NCC to visualise BGP update actvity.

Y. General I/O with Other WGs
	None

Z. AOB
	None