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20040126 21:54:55 | jabber@irc | jabber has joined the channel.
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20040127 13:28:35 | jul@irc | jul has joined the channel.
20040127 13:28:39 | jul@irc | lo
20040127 13:29:09 | jul@irc | nickname changed from jul to julien
20040127 14:04:16 | mally@irc | mally has joined the channel.
20040127 14:12:06 | evilmark@irc | evilmark has joined the channel.
20040127 15:00:11 | mally@irc | is anyone doing the asking questions for irc people thing?
20040127 15:01:17 | julien@irc | guess the jabber bot will
20040127 15:01:38 | julien@irc | or @least it will be done by the jabber operator that as a bot here
20040127 15:01:47 | julien@irc | s/that/who/
20040127 15:02:59 | marcoh@irc | marcoh has joined the channel.
20040127 15:03:10 | mally@irc | can someone ask rodney to speak closer to the mic?
20040127 15:03:40 | ww144@jabber | *ww144* ww144 has become available
20040127 15:04:29 | marcoh@irc | mally: better
20040127 15:04:33 | ww144@jabber | <ww144> volume too low? I can do so if the prob is still there
20040127 15:04:44 | Lemming@irc | Lemming has joined the channel.
20040127 15:04:44 | jeroen@irc | jeroen has joined the channel.
20040127 15:04:51 | mally@irc | rodney is v quiet..
20040127 15:04:57 | mally@irc | and my personal voolume is up full..
20040127 15:05:06 | mally@irc | thats better
20040127 15:05:10 | mally@irc | thanks
20040127 15:06:52 | ruben@irc | ruben has joined the channel.
20040127 15:08:27 | emma@irc | emma has joined the channel.
20040127 15:11:23 | evilmark@irc | 'techical difficulties'
20040127 15:11:34 | marcoh@irc | no picture :)
20040127 15:11:41 | mally@irc | hi emma
20040127 15:12:10 | emma@irc | hey mally :-)
20040127 15:12:39 | evilmark@irc | don't get much irc spam any more
20040127 15:12:48 | marcoh@irc | ok, we have an image again
20040127 15:12:57 | jeroen@irc | *SPAM* :)
20040127 15:13:32 | evilmark@irc | more along the lines of <amber18> watch me and my hot friends fuck at http://www.popupfrenzy.com/
20040127 15:15:21 | jeroen@irc | ah so you are the person sending around those messages
20040127 15:15:28 | evilmark@irc | it's a living
20040127 15:15:36 | jeroen@irc | 16:15 [RIPE] -!- evilmark [~markd _at_ bar.irc.demon _dot_ net]
20040127 15:15:36 | jeroen@irc | 16:15 [RIPE] -!- ircname : Mark Dranse
20040127 15:15:40 | jeroen@irc | gotcha! :)
20040127 15:15:43 | jeroen@irc | and now ? :)
20040127 15:15:44 | evilmark@irc | gack!
20040127 15:15:52 | evilmark@irc | rumbled.
20040127 15:16:02 | jeroen@irc | stupid dutch politics threw out the dutch anti spam laws
20040127 15:16:29 | evilmark@irc | the uk ones got passed, i think
20040127 15:16:36 | evilmark@irc | the little use that they are
20040127 15:16:41 | jeroen@irc | and are they enforced?
20040127 15:16:49 | mally@irc | the dutch government meets at hogwarts ;)
20040127 15:16:59 | jeroen@irc | mally: something like that
20040127 15:17:05 | jeroen@irc | mally: at least HP is the PM :)
20040127 15:17:12 | evilmark@irc | wt?
20040127 15:17:16 | evilmark@irc | ^f
20040127 15:17:24 | jeroen@irc | Harry Potter ..... Prime Minister
20040127 15:17:32 | jeroen@irc | never seen a pic of the dutch PM ?
20040127 15:18:02 | mally@irc | evilmark: http://www.aei.org/imgLib/20030905_dutchpm150.jpg
20040127 15:18:27 | mally@irc | peter balkenade aka harry potter
20040127 15:18:34 | evilmark@irc | cripes.
20040127 15:19:25 | jeroen@irc | balkenende even mally
20040127 15:19:35 | jeroen@irc | is emma taking these notes ? :)
20040127 15:19:46 | mally@irc | i got my news from expatica, i am sure they spelt it that way ;)
20040127 15:20:42 | ruben@irc | sometimes we spell it just like "balk-ellende" but enough about our PM
20040127 15:21:06 | jeroen@irc | :)
20040127 15:21:31 | julien@irc | julien quit IRC altogether
20040127 15:21:59 | emma@irc | i can multitask :-)
20040127 15:22:17 | jeroen@irc | even though you have a high cpuload ? :)
20040127 15:22:25 | marcoh@irc | you mean /log on ?
20040127 15:23:44 | marcoh@irc | any comments on the abuse-c ?
20040127 15:23:44 | ruben@irc | Sabri Berisha takes the helm
20040127 15:24:07 | evilmark@irc | i'm sure that's just a rumour
20040127 15:26:48 | jeroen@irc | marco: wasn't that 'abuse' without the -c as the -c meant a handle?
20040127 15:27:07 | marcoh@irc | that's open for discussion
20040127 15:27:31 | uk3@irc | uk3 has joined the channel.
20040127 15:27:41 | marcoh@irc | I support abuse: as an alternative for remarks:
20040127 15:27:47 | evilmark@irc | ditto.
20040127 15:28:04 | emma@irc | if its an attribute and not an object it will be abuse-c
20040127 15:28:17 | marcoh@irc | there are ~103.000 remarks attributes holding abuse@ in some form
20040127 15:28:41 | evilmark@irc | how do you know that ?
20040127 15:28:45 | marcoh@irc | emma, it wo't refer to a person/role so why -c ?
20040127 15:28:56 | marcoh@irc | mark: grep on db dump
20040127 15:29:18 | marcoh@irc | only 1300 inetnums have a mnt-irt
20040127 15:29:25 | evilmark@irc | ah
20040127 15:29:29 | evilmark@irc | good stuff
20040127 15:29:29 | girona@irc | girona has joined the channel.
20040127 15:29:38 | mally@irc | hi girona
20040127 15:29:43 | emma@irc | ahh well i guess that depends on whether you want to use an attribute that refers to an abuse object or not..
20040127 15:29:58 | jeroen@irc | emma: no just plain "abuse: <jeroen _at_ unfix _dot_ org>"
20040127 15:29:58 | evilmark@irc | what would the abuse object contain ?
20040127 15:30:03 | jeroen@irc | or without the <>'s even
20040127 15:30:11 | marcoh@irc | My proposal will be no referall, makes it complicated.
20040127 15:30:12 | uk3@irc | Refering another object solves a bit of the Maintainance Problem
20040127 15:30:18 | jeroen@irc | whois 1.2.3.4 | grep abuse should work
20040127 15:30:27 | uk3@irc | this works even now
20040127 15:30:31 | marcoh@irc | whois | grep abuse: should do the trick for more people
20040127 15:30:39 | mally@irc | not uniformly, uk3
20040127 15:30:39 | uk3@irc | or with remarks: abuse: ...@.........
20040127 15:30:45 | jeroen@irc | uk3: what is the diff between abuse _at_ example _dot_ com or ABUSE-EXAMPLE ?
20040127 15:30:48 | marcoh@irc | uk3: put it on your maintainer
20040127 15:30:59 | emma@irc | some people on the mailing list wanted an object so they could refer to different addresses for different problems
20040127 15:31:11 | uk3@irc | which is not returned by default so dau wont see it
20040127 15:31:12 | jeroen@irc | emma: that is what irt does already :)
20040127 15:31:13 | mally@irc | then it just gets confusing
20040127 15:31:21 | evilmark@irc | cretins will do a whois and use the first address they find, and report abuse to me as i'm the last changed: entry
20040127 15:31:25 | marcoh@irc | make it muiltiple, you can always use // comments
20040127 15:31:34 | emma@irc | yep but users don't understand the word irt but understand the word abuse..
20040127 15:31:40 | jeroen@irc | indeed
20040127 15:31:42 | marcoh@irc | evil: I know the feeling
20040127 15:31:44 | mally@irc | remember a lot of 'users' will use reporting programms
20040127 15:31:46 | emma@irc | anyways wasn't my idea - i'm impartial and neutral :-)
20040127 15:31:51 | mally@irc | so multiple entries would likely be useful
20040127 15:31:54 | mally@irc | er
20040127 15:31:56 | mally@irc | not useful
20040127 15:32:07 | girona@irc | the irt object has a lot of useful things.
20040127 15:32:19 | marcoh@irc | mally, but it;s easier to program...
20040127 15:32:55 | marcoh@irc | tracing tech-c role isn't that hardf either or even dig through remarks:
20040127 15:33:05 | evilmark@irc | have abuse: AND an irt thingummy too if you like
20040127 15:33:08 | jeroen@irc | wow.. funny that saab forgets that :)
20040127 15:33:10 | marcoh@irc | sorry for my typing
20040127 15:33:12 | evilmark@irc | they neednt be mutually exclusive
20040127 15:33:46 | girona@irc | depends what the point of the irt object is.
20040127 15:33:48 | uk3@irc | but having to things for basically the same purpose migt be even more confusing
20040127 15:33:50 | marcoh@irc | correct, I wasn't planning on deprecating irt/mnt-irt
20040127 15:34:13 | girona@irc | as wilfred just said the irtobject was designed for IRT->IRT communication
20040127 15:34:20 | jeroen@irc | irt does many things more like providing the pgpkeys so one can check that the sender/receiver really is a real abuse department
20040127 15:34:23 | jeroen@irc | and just not some kid
20040127 15:34:32 | evilmark@irc | yah
20040127 15:34:35 | marcoh@irc | uk3: there are only round 45 irt objetcs, so it's unusable
20040127 15:34:47 | girona@irc | how does checking the pgp key verify if its a real abuse dept?
20040127 15:35:01 | jeroen@irc | girona: mail sent should be signed by that key
20040127 15:35:13 | marcoh@irc | gir: you don't
20040127 15:35:21 | uk3@irc | marcoh: I don't think that is a valid argument
20040127 15:35:26 | mally@irc | it doesnt prove it is an abuse dept tho
20040127 15:35:32 | marcoh@irc | at least you know your talking to the correct LIR
20040127 15:35:34 | mally@irc | just that its come from that address
20040127 15:35:48 | mally@irc | just like our janet-cert doesnt prove we are a cert dept, just it came from cert _at_ cert.ja _dot_ net...
20040127 15:35:53 | jeroen@irc | mally: well it does prove they are 'authoritive' as an abuse contact for that block
20040127 15:36:02 | mally@irc | nope
20040127 15:36:04 | girona@irc | if the owner of the IP space has linked the object, then you can be pretty sure the information is correct
20040127 15:36:11 | jeroen@irc | indeed
20040127 15:36:11 | marcoh@irc | uk3: spam complaints coming into changed and ntfy addresses is almost as annoying as spam itself
20040127 15:36:12 | uk3@irc | there are still tons of unmaintained Objects even with the 'well' established Maintainer concept
20040127 15:36:46 | uk3@irc | marcoh: and you expect that to change by an abuse(-c) ? which still is exclusive to RIPE-DB
20040127 15:37:03 | evilmark@irc | the arin way of doing things isn't so bad...
20040127 15:37:15 | marcoh@irc | uk3: it's one of the options...
20040127 15:37:19 | girona@irc | i like the most specifc network feature of the irt object.
20040127 15:37:53 | marcoh@irc | if you have another idea, drop me a few lines via mail
20040127 15:38:14 | marcoh@irc | maybe I can put it in my presentation for tomorrow
20040127 15:38:48 | marcoh@irc | evilmark: arin is greppable
20040127 15:39:08 | mally@irc | which wg you presenting in, marcoh?
20040127 15:39:19 | jhma@jabber | *jhma* jhma has become available
20040127 15:39:19 | evilmark@irc | db isnt it ?
20040127 15:39:26 | evilmark@irc | <jabber> *jhma* jhma has become available
20040127 15:39:32 | evilmark@irc | is this like some dating service?
20040127 15:40:06 | marcoh@irc | mally db-wg
20040127 15:40:22 | mally@irc | k
20040127 15:42:28 | evilmark@irc | we shall come and hecke
20040127 15:42:32 | evilmark@irc | erm. heckle.
20040127 15:42:37 | marcoh@irc | by the way, Sabri's demo is failing...
20040127 15:42:43 | evilmark@irc | *shocker*
20040127 15:42:45 | mally@irc | so i hear...
20040127 15:42:58 | Lemming@irc | just my 2 cents, why creating a new entry in the database while 'abuse _at_ provider _dot_ com' is the unwritten rule already? Just curious...
20040127 15:43:17 | evilmark@irc | define "provider.com" in every case...
20040127 15:43:21 | mally@irc | its not always tho
20040127 15:43:22 | girona@irc | how do you determine provider.com?
20040127 15:43:29 | mally@irc | like aol use tosreports@
20040127 15:43:32 | evilmark@irc | exactly.
20040127 15:43:34 | mally@irc | or somesuch
20040127 15:43:34 | evilmark@irc | tossreports?
20040127 15:43:38 | marcoh@irc | lemming, it is...rfc2142
20040127 15:43:48 | girona@irc | when aol pretend to deal with them
20040127 15:43:53 | uk3@irc | Lemming: ints even Written (RFC2xxx)
20040127 15:46:46 | Lemming@irc | sorry, forgot about the rfc. *shame-shame*... indeed, you cannot always find the 'provider.com' but a person is linked to the inetnum right. you can contact him/her then (phone/email is available already).
20040127 15:47:12 | marcoh@irc | question from roger, are blacklist here to stay ?
20040127 15:47:30 | evilmark@irc | we want to AVOID hassling a single individual person...
20040127 15:47:31 | marcoh@irc | Lemming: that's the problem
20040127 15:47:38 | evilmark@irc | exactly
20040127 15:48:00 | mally@irc | then you just make the phone number point to a pool of people...
20040127 15:48:17 | evilmark@irc | our abuse team dont accept phonecalls
20040127 15:48:29 | marcoh@irc | that's not the point...problem is they are different people
20040127 15:49:05 | marcoh@irc | tech-c might include network ops, you are not sure that's the same as abuse
20040127 15:49:25 | evilmark@irc | you can nearly always be sure that it *isnt* the same, imho.
20040127 15:49:46 | marcoh@irc | for small companies it migth work
20040127 15:50:03 | evilmark@irc | heh, rodney cracked a joke
20040127 15:50:22 | marcoh@irc | and I want to delegate some stuff...like easy internet can do more when the complaints are there before the customer left
20040127 15:51:21 | Lemming@irc | ok, thats true. just making sure all discussing is not for somehting which 'might work', consumes lots of time implementing/disccussing and afterwards nearly not used... get my point?
20040127 15:51:25 | marcoh@irc | so I would like to list them as a secondary and/or forward stuff whitout human intervention aka use a seperate address for them
20040127 15:51:50 | marcoh@irc | Lemming: that's alway the risk
20040127 15:51:59 | mally@irc | you could end up with your allocated ip rang having 321390210932 different abuse addresses tho..
20040127 15:52:07 | mally@irc | which i dont think is a good situation..
20040127 15:52:14 | evilmark@irc | you use the most specific
20040127 15:52:16 | evilmark@irc | always
20040127 15:52:19 | girona@irc | mally: depends how big your netrange is....
20040127 15:52:22 | evilmark@irc | obviously :)
20040127 15:52:27 | marcoh@irc | mally for certain specifics it would be iusefull
20040127 15:52:48 | marcoh@irc | like the blocks I use from my UK colleagues
20040127 15:53:02 | mally@irc | is there any use in forwarding a complaint about port scanning to a retail manager of an internet cafe...?
20040127 15:53:22 | girona@irc | as opposed to?
20040127 15:53:33 | girona@irc | forwarding it to an abuse desk, which then forward it to the retail manager?
20040127 15:53:34 | evilmark@irc | as opposed to ops _at_ ripe _dot_ net calling them all paedophiles
20040127 15:53:40 | mally@irc | i guess, girona
20040127 15:53:45 | marcoh@irc | if they are fast they can find the culprit and especially easy is very cooperative at that point
20040127 15:54:02 | girona@irc | mally: keeps us in a job though, so mustn't grumble ;)
20040127 15:54:38 | mally@irc | ;)
20040127 15:55:00 | Lemming@irc | what would be the pollicy then? enter a abuse/abuse-c per inetnum for all previously entered netblocks or enter 1 in your route-object (for example) which always is exported to the (current) netblocks when none is entered? Or would that be the wrong channel now? :)
20040127 15:55:26 | marcoh@irc | enter it on your mntner: and possibly override it on inetnum
20040127 15:55:34 | evilmark@irc | one abuse: entry per inetnum, i suppose
20040127 15:56:07 | marcoh@irc | make it multiple, but if you insert more then one don't complain you get more copies
20040127 15:56:28 | marcoh@irc | if somebody uses grep to find the address
20040127 15:56:55 | evilmark@irc | it's a matter of end user education too
20040127 15:57:18 | evilmark@irc | it'a all very well specifying an abuse: entry, but if they dont respond to complaints, end users and retarded software will continue to spam every address they can find
20040127 15:57:24 | marcoh@irc | introducing abuse: makes the education simpler. at least I think it does
20040127 15:57:25 | evilmark@irc | which is nice.
20040127 15:57:45 | evilmark@irc | marcoh: yes, i agree
20040127 15:57:54 | bruce-hp@jabber | *bruce-hp* bruce-hp has become available
20040127 16:00:13 | kurtis@irc | kurtis has joined the channel.
20040127 16:00:30 | marcoh@irc | hmmm, I think my mac wants to reboot because of security update :(
20040127 16:00:39 | mally@irc | cant hear at all whoever is talking now....
20040127 16:00:39 | marcoh@irc | it has to wait
20040127 16:00:48 | mally@irc | ah. can hear rodney now..
20040127 16:01:22 | marcoh@irc | asked rodney to repeat
20040127 16:05:54 | mally@irc | habeas is the biggest waste of time ever
20040127 16:06:06 | uk3@irc | yes
20040127 16:06:33 | evilmark@irc | sounds really gay
20040127 16:06:40 | bruce-hp@jabber | *bruce-hp* bruce-hp has left
20040127 16:07:18 | Lemming@irc | habeas is only good for loads of spam in my inbox instead of the spam-box :(
20040127 16:08:16 | ruben@irc | they where/are under attack
20040127 16:08:55 | ruben@irc | http://www.habeas.com/report/#forgery
20040127 16:09:37 | ruben@irc | http://www.habeas.com/companyPressPR.html#violation
20040127 16:20:44 | mally@irc | tell rodney its changed
20040127 16:20:49 | mally@irc | we get rid of 99% spam today
20040127 16:21:35 | jeroen@irc | http://research.microsoft.com/research/sv/PennyBlack/ <--- Microsoft thingy for paying for mail that is spam(tm)
20040127 16:21:40 | marcoh@irc | already at the next item
20040127 16:21:52 | jeroen@irc | jups
20040127 16:21:54 | mally@irc | the webcast is so delayed...
20040127 16:21:55 | marcoh@irc | mailly: will mention it on the open mic :)
20040127 16:22:13 | mally@irc | ;)
20040127 16:22:23 | marcoh@irc | emma: can you get mally's comment in the minutes
20040127 16:22:27 | marcoh@irc | ?
20040127 16:24:11 | emma@irc | umm, didn't include rodneys comments in the minutes but this session is archived!!
20040127 16:24:35 | marcoh@irc | which is a good thing, given the abuse-c discussion
20040127 16:25:12 | mally@irc | well, tell rodney what i said at openmic anyway, it'll please him to know we now dont have spam in cert _at_ cert.ja _dot_ net... :)
20040127 16:26:00 | girona@irc | janet-cert has fixed spam.
20040127 16:26:04 | girona@irc | world peace next
20040127 16:26:11 | marcoh@irc | grin
20040127 16:26:17 | jeroen@irc | Searched the web for cert _at_ cert.ja _dot_ net. Results 1 - 10 of about 161.
20040127 16:26:20 | jhma@jabber | *jhma* jhma has left
20040127 16:26:29 | jeroen@irc | Searched the web for jeroen _at_ unfix _dot_ org. Results 1 - 10 of about 1,110.
20040127 16:26:36 | jeroen@irc | I think there is a relation there
20040127 16:26:38 | jeroen@irc | :)
20040127 16:26:49 | jeroen@irc | and actually my viruslevel is higher than real spam(tm)
20040127 16:27:42 | uk3@irc | Today for sure :(
20040127 16:28:15 | bruce@jabber | *bruce* bruce has become available
20040127 16:28:19 | jeroen@irc | yeah... but there where only 50 to my personal box
20040127 16:28:24 | jeroen@irc | so that is not that much actually
20040127 16:28:47 | mally@irc | people should use the mics..
20040127 16:28:50 | jeroen@irc | totally unknown sources at those
20040127 16:28:51 | mally@irc | else cant hear their comments..
20040127 16:29:46 | mally@irc | thankyou
20040127 16:31:35 | uk3@irc | I also got lots of 'Hey you sent us a Virus' Mails
20040127 16:32:05 | ruben@irc | what about postmaster bounces ;)
20040127 16:32:15 | Lemming@irc | hehe, so do i. forged from addresses I presume...
20040127 16:32:21 | ruben@irc | juh
20040127 16:32:26 | jeroen@irc | uk3: thsoe are funny indeed.... :)
20040127 16:32:31 | Lemming@irc | a well, ignore = on...
20040127 16:32:49 | jeroen@irc | well that virus actually uses old mailingheaders to get working from/to's
20040127 16:33:03 | jeroen@irc | thus it even penetrates on closed mailinglists
20040127 16:33:05 | mally@irc | when i was at ripe, we implemented a list of viruses that were known to fake from: and send out mail and thus we didnt reply to them..
20040127 16:33:14 | mally@irc | but ones that didnt send mail or fake from:, we replied too..
20040127 16:33:31 | jeroen@irc | mally: that is in amavis... but one needs to update it with new virii when they come out
20040127 16:33:32 | ruben@irc | one can configure that in amavis indeed
20040127 16:33:34 | jeroen@irc | bagle anyone ? :)
20040127 16:33:47 | ruben@irc | jeroen: juh
20040127 16:34:54 | jeroen@irc | same goes for prefix filters and the lot... if you set something up you need to maintain it too
20040127 16:35:21 | evilmark@irc | maintainence?
20040127 16:35:24 | evilmark@irc | fear.
20040127 16:35:40 | jeroen@irc | 83.0.0.0/8 ... akamai.. fear ;)
20040127 16:36:41 | evilmark@irc | eh?
20040127 16:36:57 | jeroen@irc | new prefix from IANA -> RIPE
20040127 16:37:11 | jeroen@irc | took two weeks to be taken from the filters at akamai
20040127 16:37:21 | jeroen@irc | thus those sites where unreachable... read: cnn/yahoo/.... etc
20040127 16:37:25 | evilmark@irc | ah. _nice_
20040127 16:37:41 | mally@irc | ripe generally announce a few weeks in advance of 1st allocation tho..
20040127 16:37:47 | evilmark@irc | aye
20040127 16:37:51 | mally@irc | and they annouce it to enough places...
20040127 16:38:06 | evilmark@irc | aye
20040127 16:38:44 | mally@irc | and you expect ripe to be responsible for $private-company
20040127 16:38:47 | jeroen@irc | mally: and still people don't pick it up.... 69box.something nicely shows that
20040127 16:38:54 | mally@irc | and ripe says they do not guarantee routing..
20040127 16:39:04 | jeroen@irc | true
20040127 16:39:21 | jeroen@irc | it is not a ripe problem... but for the ISP's it hurts... their clients thus them
20040127 16:39:32 | jeroen@irc | and as eg TPNET got a /15 .... <grin>
20040127 16:39:43 | jeroen@irc | (and moved over all their clients from the old space)
20040127 16:40:01 | emma@irc | ex-company being ripe ncc not ripe !
20040127 16:40:42 | mally@irc | :)
20040127 16:40:52 | mally@irc | theres hardly any division, despite what they say....
20040127 16:41:03 | jeroen@irc | mally: you might want to give emma a hug for that :)
20040127 16:41:17 | evilmark@irc | it's all just a tax fiddle
20040127 16:41:21 | evilmark@irc | allegedly
20040127 16:41:39 | jeroen@irc | the non-ncc/... thing ?
20040127 16:42:03 | jeroen@irc | I can't call a 2 'bv' setup a tax fiddle :)
20040127 16:42:14 | jeroen@irc | those stat at about 20 bv's :)
20040127 16:42:24 | Lemming@irc | Lemming has left the channel.
20040127 16:42:36 | mally@irc | evilmark, 'bv' = plc.uk
20040127 16:42:41 | mally@irc | or ltd.. i forget which one
20040127 16:42:55 | ruben@irc | i think limited
20040127 16:42:58 | evilmark@irc | r
20040127 16:43:01 | ruben@irc | plc is more like nv
20040127 16:43:14 | jeroen@irc | s/stat/start/
20040127 16:43:27 | evilmark@irc | gah. some of us have places to be.
20040127 16:44:08 | mally@irc | rodney did say you could go..
20040127 16:44:11 | mally@irc | the schoolbell has gone
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20040127 16:45:34 | evilmark@irc | meeting my brother
20040127 16:46:53 | mally@irc | have a nice evening
20040127 16:47:00 | jeroen@irc | nighters ;)
20040127 16:47:07 | emma@irc | bye mally!
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20040127 16:47:38 | marcoh@irc | ok, see ya
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