RIPE Meeting Archive
25th RIPE meeting Minute
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
September 21-23, 1996
AGENDA
1. Opening
2. Adoption of the Agenda
3. Minutes 24th RIPE meeting
4. Actions 24th RIPE meeting
5. Next Meetings
6. Report from the RIPE Chair
7. RIPE NCC Reports
8. Report from the Contributors Meeting
9. Distribution of Remaining Classful Internet Address Space
10. Regulation issues on the Internet
11. Report from the IETF
12. Reports from the Working Groups
13. Report from the Routing Arbiter Project
14. AOB
15. Closing
APPENDICES
Appendix 1: List of Participants
Appendix 2: Open Action Items
1. Opening
1.1. Welcome
Rob Blokzijl welcomed the participants to the 25th RIPE meeting hosted by
NIKHEF in Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
1.2. Papers tabled:
- Agenda for the 24th RIPE meeting
- List of Participants of the 24th RIPE meeting
- Flyer JENC8 conference
2. Adoption of the agenda
The agenda was approved.
3. Minutes 24th RIPE meeting
The minutes of the last meeting were approved with no changes.
4. Action points 24th RIPE meeting
The action items from the 24th RIPE meeting minutes were reviewed. The
following list comprises the ongoing action items only. All other action items
were closed.
Action 23.1 on Geert Jan de Groot
- To write up recommendations for managing nameserver configurations.
Action 23.3 on RIPE NCC
- To incorporate a page where TLD policies can be published at its WWW site.
Action 24.4 on Willem van der Scheun (taken over by Joachim Schmitz)
- To investigate the status of the CIDR FAQ and see whether additions are
needed, probably by triggering a discussion on the mailing list.
5. Next Meetings
The dates of the next meetings were discussed. The following dates were
agreed upon:
- RIPE26 (Amsterdam, The Netherlands): 20-22 January, 1997
- RIPE27 (Dublin, Ireland): 21-23 May, 1997
6. Report from the RIPE Chair
Rob Blokzijl talked about the changes that had taken place between the
first and 25th RIPE meeting. He mentioned how the audience had changed from a
few people actively engaged in building the first Internet in Europe, to a
large audience running a thriving business. This has impact in both positive
and negative ways.
He also mentioned that from RIPE25 on, the minutes will be in a different
format. The minutes of the working group reflecting the general meeting will
not be incorporated anymore into the general minutes. The general minutes will
only contain a short summary. The minutes of the working groups can be found at
the pages of the working groups on the RIPE WWW server.
The last point Rob made was that it may be healthy for RIPE to have another
person as a chair after a long time. If anybody has ideas on new chairpersons,
then this can be discussed before the 26th RIPE meeting at the ripe-list
mailinglist, so at that meeting decisions can be taken.
7. RIPE NCC reports
Mirjam Kuehne, Daniel Karrenberg, Carol Orange and Paul Ridley gave
comprehensive overviews of the state of affairs at the RIPE NCC. The overview
is well summarised by the slides they used for their presentations, which can
be found at:
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/presentations/ripe-m25-dfk-NCC-Report.ps.gz
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/presentations/ripe-m25-mir-RS-Report.ps.gz
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/presentations/ripe-m25-orange-CS-Report.ps.gz
For more details, please refer to the RIPE NCC quarterly reports.
There was a question from Peter Galbavy whether there was a particular pattern
in the growth of different size categories of registries. The answer was that
the increase in the number of small registries was very large in comparison to
the other categories. This was also a reason why the contributors decided to
introduce a minimum size category based on address space allocation history.
(See next agenda point).
8. Report from the Contributors Meeting
Daniel Karrenberg gave a summary of the discussions that took place at the
Contributors' Committee meeting. First, there had been reports from the RIPE
NCC about the past year and the new internal structure. Then the
activity plan and operating budget for 1997 had been presented and adopted
without much discussion.
3 different charging models had been presented, and the opinions at the
Contributors' Committee meeting had represented the discussion on the
mailinglist quite well, with many people preferring model 1 as being the
simplest, and also some preferring model 3. Ultimately, the decision that had
come out was to go for a charging scheme based on model 1 with fixed fees and 3
categories, but with a minimum category decided by the RIPE NCC, based upon
address space allocation.
There had been quite some discussion about the amount of reserves the RIPE
NCC should have, mainly because of the corporate tax that would have to be paid
on them. This had evolved into a discussion about a new organisational
structure of the NCC, which was something which all parties concerned found
necessary. A small committee had been established to investigate possibilities
in this field.
After his summary, Daniel expressed his thanks for the vote of confidence
the Contributors had given to the NCC by approving the activity plan as
presented, and by instructing the NCC to design and implement a mechanism for
determining charging categories by themselves. He stated that the minutes of
the meeting were still being worked on and would be published soon.
Kurt Kayser asked whether the NCC had considered getting subsidy from the
European Commission. Daniel replied that this would not happen, because the NCC
is already well funded from the contributors and should remain independent from
the influences that come with other funding sources. Rob Blokzijl added that
the European Commission never reserves money for continuing services, only for
projects with limited time scope.
There was a suggestion that the Contributors' Committee meeting could be
held closer in conjunction with a RIPE meeting. This would be considered for
the next year.
Wilfried Woeber noted that at the Contributors' Committee meeting it was
stated that if a small group would be formed to look into the possibilities for
the NCC's new formal structure, the work of this small group would be done in
as open a way as possible. Wilfried stressed he wanted to have this
implemented, which was promised.
Antonio Blasco Bonito asked whether the discussions on the mailinglist
would also be incorporated in the Contributors' Committee meeting minutes.
Daniel replied that as usual only the meeting itself would be minuted. He added
that he had reported on discussions on the mailing list to the meeting and that
report would be minuted.
9. Distribution of Remaining Classful Internet Address Space
Agenda point not minuted, as the discussion is not relevant to people not
attending the meeting. (It involved a lot of letters A, B and C made of
chocolate.) If this issue comes up at any next meeting there will be a
multimedia recording of the deliberations.
10. Regulation issues on the Internet
Rob introduced the subjext by briefly summarising three areas of possible
problems concerning regulation: address space, name space and content. After
this, the discussion focused mainl;y on content regulation.
Rob asked the audience whether RIPE should get involved in the discussion
surrounding content regulation on the Internet. Peter Galbavy
remarked that there are two different aspects to this issue. RIPE should decide
whether they want to be involved in lobbying/advising in the process of making
regulations. As a different point, it would be good to have a central point of
information about regulation issues, local law concerning Internet Service
Providers, etc. Rob Blokzijl added that it would be up to the ISPs themselves
to come up with this information.
Daniel summarised the opinions expressed about this at the NCC
Contributors' Committee meeting: the RIPE NCC should not be involved in
lobbying and industry representation issues that are not clearly related to the
NCC's activities themselves. The reason is that the NCC has to keep a neutral
and impartial position. Daniel suggested that industry representation work for
RIPE could be organised seperately. Joachim Schmitz noted that lobbying should
not be an activity inside RIPE as RIPE is a technical forum. But he added that
a position on regulation issues should be developed, because questions about
regulation issues will undoubtedly come RIPE's way.
Keith Mitchell reported that Peter Dawe has set up an organisation called
Safetynet, that concerns itself with illegal content on the Internet. Among
other plans, they have set up a hotline where people can report illegal things,
and are developing a rating scheme for WWW sites and newsgroups. Safetynet is
not a 'network police' organisation forcing ISPs to cut off sites from the
Internet, only warns the ISPs when illegal content is found on their servers.
The LINX (London Internet exchange) has endorsed Safetynet's activities. So far
this has been enough for the politicians not to involve themselves in the LINX.
Keith Mitchell said he thinks that RIPE should at least endorse some kind of
activities, or the politicians will force regulation.
Daniel Karrenberg asked whether a situation has ever been encountered where
transport, instead of storage, of illegal material was involved. Keith Mitchell
answered that Safetynet only has authority over things that are stored in the
UK. If a problem concerning Internet content stored in another country is
encountered, the appropriate authorities in that country will be notified.
Peter Galbavy added that also the UK police are not interested in packets
carried over the Internet, but only in illegal things stored on UK territory.
A short discussion took place about different rating schemes that Safetynet
was going to implement and about 'different levels of illegality' of
newsgroups.
Daniel Karrenberg asked the audience if someone had more information about
a case in Germany, where a prosecutor had chased ISPs for carrying illegal
packets. Geert Jan de Groot said he heard that it got undone. Joachim Schmitz
explained about the situation in Germany, where it is not yet clear which laws
apply to ISPs. Inside the government, there is a discussion about how to deal
with telecommunication issues. The current position is that Deutsche Telekom is
not liable for the content (of the conversations they carry) as long as they
don't know it. The government are thinking of applying the same rule to ISPs.
Also, the ISPs are liable for content that is stored in Germany, but not for
anything else.
Bernhard Stockman said he would think that broadcast laws apply more easily
to ISPs. Ruediger Volk said that that would mean that supervising bodies would
have to be there to watch the content of the broadcasted material, which is not
a practical situation. Peter Galbavy responded that the internet is parallel to
the phone network in the aspect that there is one link from the source of
information to the client.
Mike O'Dell said that the distinction between the transport of information
and the source of information should be emphasised to those making policy.
Cliff Stanford stated that in the UK, this has been brought across to the
government and the publisher of the website is liable, not the person who owns
the computer on which the information is stored. Joachim Schmitz added that a
German legal study, which has respect with the German government, came to the
same conclusion.
Rob Blokzijl rounded the discussion up. He said he could draw the
conclusion that RIPE should not involve itself in political lobbying or
regulation. The RIPE meeting was however a good place to exchange info
regularly.
11. Report from the IETF
Joyce Reynolds this time held a more introductory talk about the structure
of the IETF. The topics she talked about are well summarised by slides that can
be found at:
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/presentations/ripe-m25-jkrey-IETF.txt
12. Reports from the Working Groups
The chairs from the various working groups gave reports on the working
group meetings that were held earlier. A summary of the working groups reports
is appended below. Full minutes of the working groups will be accessible from
http://www.ripe.net/wg/index.html
Local IR Working Group
1. Chair: Mike Norris
Scribe: Anne Lord
Attendance: over 90 people
Agenda agreed
2. Minutes, actions
All actions completed
- complete ripe-104++ & circulate
- produce new IP address request form
- circulate paper on charging
- ask Internic about removal of European networks
from database
3. Reports from registries
- NCC report to plenary
- Contributors Committee agrees 1997 workplan including
Registry tasks
4. IP address space assignment
- documents ripe-140, 141, 142
- Inconsistencies
- nic-handle in person object should be mandatory
admin-c, zone-c, tech-c should contain nic-handles
- status attribute in inetnum object should be mandatory
Both agreed, recommended to DB WG
5. Charging Document
- agreed also by DNS WG
- now becomes a RIPE document
6. Training
- NCC will try to put slides in HTML format
7. I/O with other WGs
- DB: recommendation at 4.2.
- DNS: endorses Charging Document
8. Global Registry Coordination
- good relations, regular contact
- duplicate registrations now removed
- database mirroring with APNIC and other registries;
Internic: still problems
9. Reverse domain space
- monitored by NCC
- reverse domains should go in database
10. AOB
- Internet Registry Evolution
- urge discussions, input to mailing list
(ire-request@apnic.net)
- NCC will attend meetings and report
- PIARA - not chartered yet
Routing Working Group
Meeting 23.9.96 16:00-18:10
89 participants
Chairmen: Willem van der Scheun, Joachim Schmitz
Scribe: Mike Norris
- * New chairman
- Joachim Schmitz (JS395-RIPE), schmitz@noc.dfn.de
- * Presentations
-
Joachim Schmitz, DFN-NOC:
Working Experience with ROE
Tony Barber, Pipex:
Experience with Progressive BGP Route Flap Dampening
Cengiz Alaettinoglu, ISI:
The RA ToolSet
During the RIPE meeting a test installation of the RA ToolSet was accessible to
the participants
- * Actions
-
Action 22.10 on Joachim Schmitz
- To trigger the discussion on the mailing list of the Routing WG, which
focus to choose for a future tool development project and to come to consensus
on it
Action 24.4 on Joachim Schmitz
- To investigate the status of the CIDR FAQ and see whether additions are
needed, probably by triggering a discussion on the mailing list
Action 25.R1 on Daniel Karrenberg/RIPE NCC
- To report on the results from the route aggregation analysis on the 26th
RIPE meeting
Action 25.R2 on Joachim Schmitz
- To coordinate making the presentations at the Routing WG available
Database Working Group
Chair: Wilfried Woeber
Scribe: John LeRoy Crain
Participants: 51 (according to the sign-up list)
Agenda:
Results and decisions
The usual report about the status of the DB and the DB software was offered
by the RIPE-NCC (Carol Orange) and well received by the group. There
is still a couple of minor bugs around (as can be expected anyway when
implementing a major new software release), these bugs are being fixed asap.
The behaviour of the software when doing an inverse lookup ("-i"
flag) is to be changed to imply "-r" (recursion disabled).
NIC-Handles (in general) and the status: attribute for inetnum: objects
should be enforced by the DB software. This is to bring the software in line
with the requirements in the address allocation guidelines documentation.
The proposed flag day for these changes is 1.1.1997.
In order to avoid confusion, the string AUTO (which is used to request and
control automatic handle assignment) shall be reserved (not to be used for a
real handle).
There was general consensus that the quality and consistency of the data in
the RIPE-DB should be improved. The group formally supports this activity which
is also part of the RIPE NCC Activity Plan for 1997. A project has
been set up with the Free University of Amsterdam to look at the consistency
issues. Students may wish to interview selected users.
Current thinking is that there shall be more sanity checking at the time of
a transaction (each time) and that we need some background checks that can be
performed at regular intervals. These should then catch inconsistencies which
can not be properly detected by the transaction tests. Making this
process succeed is expected to require collaboration and some effort from
Local-IR folks as well as from the routing folks.
Ambrose Magee was introduced as the new primary maintainer of the DB-SW.
He then reported on the proposed structure of the Documentation for
the RIPE Database objects, the usage and the software. The group endorsed the
concept with some minor proposals for improvement and stressed the importance
of the documentation, and in general, the importance of consolidation vs. new
functionality.
Input received from the DNS-WG asked for a referral mechanism in the
RIPE-DB to support registering 2nd and lower level domain objects at the site
of a TLD Administration, but still offering access with whois by way of the
RIPE-DB. There was a reasonable number of TLDs represented that promised
support on their end for implementing that approach.
The decision reached calls for an interim solution to add a referral
mechanism to domain: objects. This would only be used in (TLD) domain: objects
that describe the TLD and point to the authoritative DB that holds the 2nd and
any lower level data.
During the discussion of the DB-SW behaviour of handling multiple
maintainer entries, it was clarified that there is no hierarchy involved.
The software just scans all entries and tries to find a match. The first
match found is honored. This is in line with the current concept and design.
New actions:
Action 25.DB1 on Wilfried Woeber, Carol Orange
- To come up with a technical proposal for better DB consistency checking.
Action 25.DB2 on all WG members
- To think about implications of the proposed DB consistency checking and to
provide input.
Action 25.DB3 on Carol Orange, Daniel Karrenberg
- To report about the FUA findings (on DB consistency) at next ripe meeting.
Action 25.DB4 on Carol Orange, Daniel Karrenberg
- To document the approach to find and change references to person objects
in order to support migration to mandatory handles (using inverse look up and
"search and replace") and send it to the list.
Action 25.DB5 on Ambrose Magee
- (time allowing) To implement the change that "whois -i ..."
implies "whois -i -r ..."
Action 25.DB6a on Wilfried Woeber
- To ask on the DB-WG mailing list about the need of improved inverse lookup
functionality (more attributes allowed for -i).
Action 25.DB6a on Daniel Karrenberg
- To look at query logs for "failed" -i attempts.
Action 25.DB7 on RIPE NCC (Ambrose Magee)
- To produce the RIPE-DB Documentation a.s.a.p. and according to the agreed
structure.
Action 25.DB8a on RIPE NCC (Carol Orange)
- To publish the "known bugs" list, on the Web or on the
FTP-Server.
Action 25.DB8b on RIPE NCC (Carol Orange)
- To publish the "open issues" list (consolidated wish list) on
the Web or on the FTP server.
Action 25.DB9 on RIPE NCC (Ambrose Magee, Carol Orange, Daniel
Karrenberg)
- To propose and implement (a.s.a.p.) a referral mechanism for TLD domain:
objects (only).
Action 25.DB10 on Wilfried Woeber, RIPE NCC
- To make a proposal on the technical and procedural requirements of making
the status: attribute for inetnum: objects mandatory.
Action 25.DB11 on RIPE NCC (Ambrose Magee)
- To change the DB-SW to obsolete the advisory: attribute in aut-num:
objects.
Action 25.DB12 on RIPE NCC (Ambrose Magee)
- To add mailing lists with their descriptions to the database documents.
NetNews Working Group
31 attendees
scribe: Roderik Muit
1. Newsflow analysis
The scripts have been improved by Heiko Rupp. They are running on 6
European News servers currently, and a set of 11 maps is produced every week.
Action 25.N1 on Netnews WG
- To look for additional measuring sites for News traffic
Action 25.N2 on Netnews WG
- To produce coordinates of important News servers
Action 25.N3 on Felix Kugler
- To check with Heiko Rupp if if volume data could be added easily in his
newsflow analysis scripts
2. Optimization of resource usage - building the Newsbone
The "Newsbone" is a fast interconnection of European News servers
with US feeds. The Newsbone feeds should be adapted to the underlying network
as good as possible to save bandwidth. The WG discussed procedures and network
requirements for joining the Newsbone.
3. Improving quality of service - guidelines for Newsbone sites
Newsbone sites should meet certain criteria like minimum expire times, the
set of carried newsgroups, article transfer delays. The basic configuration
parameters should be accessible. As a very important feature, Newsbone sites
will be expected to have open monitoring facilities which show inbound and
outbound traffic flows as well as queue sizes.
Action 25.N4 on Felix Kugler
- To produce a small document about Newsbone requirements and put it on the
mailinglist for further discussion
4. News administration
Control message handling is regarded as a key issue of proper
administration of a News server. To prevent damage by faked control messages,
PGP-support is considered to be the optimum solution. However, there
are only few control messages and few servers using this at the moment. A
reference WWW/FTP-server could be an alternative solution to solve the security
problem. There are doubts, however, if such a server is feasible.
Transport classes: Configuring News servers in a way that binary groups
suffer first in case of backlogs is considered "acceptable practice".
Tools: four different monitoring tools were presented, more are supposed to
show up in the next months.
Action 25.N5 on Newsbone administrators
- To add PGP support to Newsbone servers
Action 25.N6 on Felix Kugler
- To put available checkgroup messages on a WWW server as intermediate
solution and as startup help for new sites.
Action 25.N7 on Newsbone administrators
- To install monitoring facilities at the Newsbone servers
5. Introduction of new technologies
IP-Multicast: Heiko Rupp could not attend the meeting, and his MCntp
project could not be discussed in detail. Next time !
A survey of available satellite feeds was presented. Only one seems to have
adequate bandwidth, estimated start of service is November 96.
Action 25.N8 on Newsbone WG
- Please post any experience with satellite newsfeeds to the netnews-wg
list!
More information about News and this group's work is available from
http://www.xlink.net/~hwr/netnews
http://www.switch.ch/switch/netnews/wg
DNS Working Group
24 September 1969 from shortly after 09:00 until about 10:30.
Chair: Lars-Johan Liman & Ruediger Volk
Notes: Niall O'Reilly
The agenda was constructed, dynamically, as follows.
1. Administrivia
2. Agenda bashing
3. New DNS features
4. New TLDs
5. Standardisation of registration procedures among TLDs
6. Relation of RIPE db data to TLD registry data.
7. AOB
The meeting was informed of new DNS features: dynamic DNS, security,
incremental zone transfer, notification, lightweight transaction security; and
that implementations were beginning to become available, although these were
beset with political difficulties about security.
Participants were encouraged to obtain experience and to report this at
next meeting.
Issues surrounding new TLDs were discussed at length. It was agreed that a
document from RIPE was needed which would be sent to relevant political
authorities, and that a sub-group should meet to attempt to draft the text. It
was noted that a RIPE opinion had been expressed at RIPE-23. US State
Department, ITU, and DGxiii were identified (but not exclusively) among the
relevant authorities.
Some participants indicated an interest in greater uniformity of
registration procedures among (ISO-3166) TLD registries. As a first step, it
was suggested that a central Web page with links to the pages of various
registries would be useful. It was mentioned that this was actually already on
the NCC work list.
Some registries are using RIPE-like database objects in their registration
procedures. This involves undesirable duplication of database registration. The
solution used by NL, SE was noted. Automatic referral was also
identified as a useful solution.
It was agreed to refer this issue to the database WG and to retain it on
the DNS agenda for the next meeting.
It was agreed that the working group support the Norris/Karrenberg paper
(RIPE-150) on charging by registries.
Discussion at the plenary after the presentation
There was a question whether some software containing the mentioned new DNS
features could be recommended. It was noted that the notification mechanism was
implemented in the new BIND release, and for the other features there was no
real answer.
Antonio Blasco Bonito mentioned that, though there was no uniformity in TLD
procedures, at least uniformity in documenting these procedures should be aimed
at. He asked for a minimal set of requirements for TLDs on documenting their
procedures. Lars-Johan Liman took up the action of producing this.
Action 25.1 on Lars-Johan Liman
- To circulate a minimal set of requirements for TLDs on documenting their
procedures.
Bernhard Stockman reported that there was no progress yet on the experiment
for setting up new root servers. A short discussion followed about the purpose
of this experiment.
Geert Jan de Groot brought to the audience's attention that the funding for
the developers of the BIND software has almost reached its end, and asked if
RIPE should do something about supporting the continuing development. The RIPE
chair took the action to investigate this issue, and report back to the
mailinglist.
Action 25.2 on Rob Blokzijl
- To investigate the state of funding of BIND software development, and
report to the RIPE mailinglist.
13. Report From the Routing Arbiter Project
Cengiz Alaettinoglu gave a presentation about the work done at ISI on the
Routing Arbiter project. His presentation is well summarised by the slides he
used, which can be retrieved from
ftp://ftp.isi.edu/ra/Presentations/RA-Review-Jul-96.ps.gz
14. AOB
Mike O'Dell (UUnet) reported that Vern Schryver (SGI) has found a simple
method to defeat the SYN flooding attacks that were reported around the time of
the RIPE-meeting.
This method is based on a mechanism similar to RED (Random Early Drop), applied
to the TCP incoming connection queue.
(More information on RED can be found at
ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/papers/early.ps.gz
or http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/floyd/abstracts.html#FJ93
)
15. Closing
Rob Blokzijl thanked the participants for attending and NIKHEF for
providing the room facilities and lunches, and declared the meeting closed.
List of open action items
(new action items in working groups are now kept in separate working group
minutes)
Action 23.1 on Geert Jan de Groot
- To write up recommendations for managing nameserver configurations.
Action 23.3 on RIPE NCC
- To incorporate a page where TLD policies can be published at its WWW site.
Action 24.4 on Joachim Schmitz
- To investigate the status of the CIDR FAQ and see whether additions are
needed, probably by triggering a discussion on the mailing list.
Action 25.1 on Lars-Johan Liman
- To circulate a minimal set of requirements for TLDs on documenting their
procedures.
Action 25.2 on Rob Blokzijl
- To investigate the state of funding of BIND software development, and
report to the RIPE mailinglist.
List of participants
Cengiz Alaettinoglu Information Sciences Institute
James Aldridge EUnet Communications Services
Janos Bajza Hungarnet Association
Steven Bakker DANTE
Dean Baldwin Internet Network Services
Tony Barber UUNET PIPEX
Michael Beckman
Loys Belleguie infeurope S.A.
Gert van den Berg Uniworld
Stephan Biesbroeck INNET
Jean Francois Biset France Telecom
Alex Bligh Xara Networks Limited
Rob Blokzijl RIPE
Jaroslav Bobovsky SANET
Patrick de Bock Global one
Antonio-Blasco Bonito GARR-NIS
Adri van Bloois Universiteit Utrecht
Stephen Bonner UKERNA
Ronald Boontje Nikhef
Erik Bos xs4all
Erik-Jan Bos Surfnet
Cor Bosman xs4all
Daniele Bovio AOL
David Boyes CIX
Philip Bridge UNISOURCE SWITZERLAND
Naomi de Bruyn RIPE NCC
Mirjam Cappon RIPE NCC
Jean Claude Carles SKYWORLD
Paula Caslav RIPE NCC
Jan-Pieter Cornet xs4all
John Crain RIPE NCC
Guy Davies UUNET PIPEX
Walter van Dijk SURFnet
Gregory Dmitriev InComA Ltd.
Gert Doering SpaceNET
Sabine Dolderer DENIC - University of Karlsruhe
Oliver Doll EUnet Deutschland GmbH
Armando Domingues FCCN/RCCN
Ramin Ali Dousti DNS-BE
Francis Dupont INRIA Rocquencourt
Pontus Ekman pi.se AB
Michael Froehloch ECRC
Luciano Gaido INFN
Elisabetta Ghermandi GARR-INFN
Frode Greisen EBONE
Roland Groeneveld World Online BV
Geert Jan de Groot RIPE NCC
Madeleine Gustafsson Telenordia
Andreas Haggander Telia Network Services
Hakan Hansson Telia Network Services
Denise Heagerty CERN
Jonathan Heiliger Internet Systems, Inc.
Petteri Helin Clinet Ltd
Risto Helin Nokia Mobile Phones
Andrew Hilborne ONYX Internet
Kevin Hoadley JANET/NOSC
Jan Hondebrink SARA
Wiebe Hordijk Free University Amsterdam
Nandor Horvath EUnet Hungary
Ingrid Janssen SARA
Peter Jurg SURFnet
Marijke Kaat SURFnet ExpertiseCentrum
Daniel Karrenberg RIPE NCC
Kurt Kayser ECRC
Tim Ketchum PSInet
Andre Koopal NLnet
Sami Koskinen Clinet Ltd.
Kimmo Kosonen Telecom Finland / DATANET
Petr Kral CESnet
Arno Krause Nacamar Data Communications
Alexandre Krivine SKYWORLD
Richard Kroes
Marian Kruydenhof Global One
Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC
Felix Kugler SWITCH
Lotta Larsson Telia Network Services
Ingrid Ledererova CESNET
Lars-Johan Liman EBONE
Anne Lord UUNET PIPEX
Philippe Lubrano NIC FRANCE / INRIA
Ambrose Magee RIPE NCC
Mauro Magrassi Unisource Italy
David Mansel Cable Online Limited
Tomas Marsalek GTS CzechCom
Balazs Martos HUNGARNET
Stuart Mcdermid UKERNA
Jim Mcmanus UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Keith Mitchell London Internet Exchange
Maldwyn Morris RIPE NCC
Roderik Muit RIPE NCC
Ireneusz Neska NASK
Mike Norris HEAnet
Vaclav Novak CESNET
Mike O'Dell UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Niall O'Reilly IE Domain Registry at UCD
Jarmo Oksanen Telecom Finland / DATANET
Carol Orange RIPE NCC
Edouard Ouin NIC FRANCE
Dirk Pantring DENIC - University of Karlsruhe
Rick Payne NETCOM Internet Ltd.
Federico Porri Interbusiness
Franck Pradal France Telecom
Francesco Pugliese Telecom Italia - Network Division
Kristian Rastas Telecom Finland / DATANET
Juergen Rauschenbach DFN
Nick Reid RIPE NCC
Nick Reid Demon Internet
Brian Renaud Merit Network, Inc.
Joyce K. Reynolds Information Sciences Institute
Georg Richter Uni - Muenster / DFN
Paul Ridley RIPE NCC
Marc Roger BELNET
Paul Rolland Oleane
Nicola Roserba Interbusiness
Valeria Rossi CILEA
Keenan Royle INnet-PIPEX Netherlands
Jussi-Matti Salmela Telecom Finland Ab
Lino Santos FCCN/RCCN
Willem van der Scheun SARA
Joachim Schmitz DFN-NOC, Universitaet Stuttgart
Jens Schweikhardt DFN-NOC Uni Stuttgart
Ivan Sedinic HPT - Croatian Post and Telecom.
Igor Semenyuk Sovam Teleport
Robert Shaw National Health Service
Franck Simon RENATER
Jeffrey Sisson PSInet
Philip Smith UUNET PIPEX
Thomas Stalder SWITCH
Cliff Stanford Demon
Henry Steuart Global One
Henk Steenman AT&T
Bernard Stockman Telia
Stefano Suin University of Pisa
Theodore Thanopoulos OTEnet S.A.
Jens Thomassen Schibsted Nett
Lene Thorsgaard Ebone
Nigel Titley British Telecom
Thomas Trede Nacamar Data Communications
Bernard Tuy CNRS / UREC
Jari Valli Nokia Mobile Phones
Ronald Verbarendse IBM Global Network
Nick Vermeulen Wirehub! Internet
Karel Vietsch TERENA
Konstantin Vinogradov InComA Ltd
Vladimir Vlach
Ruediger Volk Deutsche Telekom
Eric Wassenaar NIKHEF
Wiebe Weikamp Ilse
Arun Welch CompuServe
Ellen Wesselingh IBM Global Network
Els Willems RIPE NCC
Lee Wilmot RIPE NCC
Ton Windgassen IBM Global Network
Gerhard Winkler Vienna University Computer Center
Guido Wissendorf Uni - Muenster / DFN
Job Witteman Global One
Wilfried Woeber VUCC / ACOnet
Janos Zsako BankNet
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