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Re: The Cidr Report

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  • From: Tony Bates < >
  • Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:26:46 -0800

So after a while of not working properly, the cidr-report should now be fixed. In fact it has been working but because it is taking almost a day to generate the data mainly because
of all the whois lookups the report has been misleading in that it looked like the info wasn't
there where in fact it was from the day before. A few things I want to point out about the
report.

1) It is not as useful as it used to be (even when it is working ;-)). Why ?

Firstly, when I started the report (6 or 7 years ago) I made a simple assumption that
when ISPs advertised classles (as opposed to traditional classful A,B or C) routes there
was a need for it as they had to go out of their way to configure it so essentially I
ignored these routes in the AS aggregation calculations. Today, this does not hold true
anywhere as much as it used to.

Secondly, it always makes the assumption that you can aggregate at the
source AS level which for some providers is clearly not true for all routes.

I need to look at changing the above assumptions in future reports to see what
this does to potential savings. I expect it could be quite high. Even today with the
simple assumptions above it appears to be a gain of 11,000 routes for just 54,000
classful routes advertised.

2) It seems folks don't use it as much as they can as I see very little positive changes anymore.

However, having said this I would like to understand from folks (reply directly) if you
think I should continue to generate this.

Note also that in interesting aggregates section (see web page) this is also not as
interesting (as it uses the same assumption above) as it used to be. However, it is
worth having a quick look for config errors and would encourage providers to do this
periodically.

--Tony


At 08:37 PM 2/11/2001 -0800, Tony Bates wrote:

This is an auto-generated mail on Sun Feb 11 20:37:22 PST 2001
It is not checked before it leaves my workstation.  However, hopefully
you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look
through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you
perform.
....

1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level

 --- 11Feb01 ---
ASnum    NetsNow NetsCIDR  NetGain  % Gain   Description

AS1221      1623     1207      416   25.6%   Telstra Pty Ltd
AS701       1642     1451      191   11.6%   UUNET Technologies, Inc.
AS271        280      132      148   52.9%   University of British Columbia
AS7545       196       71      125   63.8%   ASNBLK-APNIC-AS-2-BLOCK
AS9269       162       46      116   71.6%   ASNBLK-APNIC-AS-3-BLOCK
AS6429       221      108      113   51.1%   RdC Internet
AS6595       163       62      101   62.0%   DoD Education Activity Network As
AS8013       434      336       98   22.6%   PSINet Ltd. Canada
AS13999      107       10       97   90.7%   Mega Cable S.A. de C.V.
AS4293       374      281       93   24.9%   Cable & Wireless USA
AS7496       104       23       81   77.9%   ASNBLK-APNIC-AS-2-BLOCK
AS4151       250      169       81   32.4%   USDA
AS705        312      234       78   25.0%   UUNET Technologies, Inc.
AS4755       209      137       72   34.4%   Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonom
AS1942       137       65       72   52.6%   FR-CICG-GRENOBLE
AS7018       615      544       71   11.5%   AT&T
AS7046       325      255       70   21.5%   UUNET Technologies, Inc.
AS577        236      167       69   29.2%   Bell Advanced Communications Inc.
AS174        499      431       68   13.6%   PSINet Inc.
AS1727       162       94       68   42.0%   Commander Naval Surface force US
AS9498        88       21       67   76.1%   BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD.
AS724        219      152       67   30.6%   DLA Systems Automation Center
AS5106       101       37       64   63.4%   Ameritech Advanced Data Services,
AS3464       153       92       61   39.9%   Alabama SuperComputer Network
AS7657       185      125       60   32.4%   ASNBLK-APNIC-AS-2-BLOCK
AS226        155       95       60   38.7%   Los Nettos
AS3749       115       57       58   50.4%   Tennessee Board of Regents
AS16758       63        6       57   90.5%   IKON Office Solutions
AS6413        67       11       56   83.6%   Southern Online Systems, Inc.
AS376        131       75       56   42.7%   Reseau Interordinateurs Scientiqu




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