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DANGER! Was: RIPE NCC Region Weekly Routing Report

  • To: Routing Working Group < >
  • From: Daniel Karrenberg < >
  • Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:44:07 +0100

Lars, Adam, Jasper, ...

this discussion is taking a *very dangerous* turn. The RIPE NCC allocates IP
address space in its role as a Regional Internet Registry and provides reverse
DNS service as part of this. The RIPE NCC does that according
to a set of policies developed by the local-ir working group which are aligned
globally.

The RIPE NCC does not, and in my opinion should never, have *authority* over 
routing policy set by ISPs or any other operational decision by ISPs for that
matter. If one would go down ths route the RIPE NCC would in fact assume some
sort of regulatory authority which is a Bad Idea(TM).

Do not get me wrong. I agree with your intentions and I can get quite passionate
about the strain various combinateions of carelessness, cluelessness and selfishness
put on the BGP routing system. Also note that some of this strain comes from 
people using BGP as a method for traffic engineering in many ways BGP's designers
never even had nightmares about.

But the particular pressure mechanism you are suggesting is *not appropriate*.

The best we can do is bring problems to the attention of those causing the problems
and their (routing) peers. If this continues to get worse I expect that ISPs
will start charging for announcements or something equivalent and that will 
produce the back-pressure needed. 

Again: The RIPE NCC does not, and should not, have this authority.


Daniel





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