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RE: Routing wars pending?

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  • From: Hank Nussbacher < >
  • Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:11:41 IST
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On Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:00:04 MET you said:
>  With regard to the rest of your message - here is what we do, both as a
>  Service Provider Registry and a as backbone provider which has to deal
>  with routing:
>
>  We strictly refuse requests to assign address space for further
>  sub-assignement. Adresses are *directly* assigned to the eventual user.
>  If a service provider wants to act as a Local-IR, then the proper way
>  of doing it is to get in touch with the RIPE-NCC and establish a
>  registry of it's own.

Is that the general consensus in other countries?

>
>  Just to make sure that everybody understands the rules, we explicitely
>  point out that the assignement is only valid for the purpose of
>  connecting (directly or through an intermediate step) to our backbone.
>  We explicitely reserve the right to reclaim the address space if these
>  conditions are not (or no longer) met. I know that RLR are slightly
>  different, of course.

We have had problems with this also.

>
>  With regard to routing, the answer is both collaboration by all
>  service providers (which is working rather well, I think) *and*
>  filtering based on the route objects in the RIPE database (which
>  appears to gain popularity). If somebody tries to play games, and most
>  of the backbones would have filters, then there is a good chance that
>  the hickup is confined to a small part of the Internet - which
>  eventually makes the "highjacked" addresses more or less useless.

Yes Europe is very organized - but what do you do about the USA?

>
>  And the multiple database issue should be sorted out anyway, because
>  the problem of inconsistency *is* there, even without malicious intent
>  on any side.
>
>  Wilfried.
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Hank




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