Re: [ncc-services-wg] Re: [dns-wg] Re: dnsmon / .org

[Joao Luis Silva Damas <]

On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 10:56 AM, Pascal Julienne wrote:

> David,
>
> You can't talk about monopoly when you refer to a non profit 
> organisation.
> If I follow your line of thought then many other European 
> organisations are
> also monopolies and should draw attention.  In that case, we better 
> all go
> to Cancun instead of the next RIPE meeting.
>
> I think the real question is how could the RIPE catter to ALL of its
> members.
>
> So say:
>
> 1) You have a basic fee for a basic service
> 2) You have options which you can subscribe to or not - for instance 
> if you
> want informations on traffic then you have to participate financially.
>
> This would mean that as far as IP registering all members would pay a 
> comon
> fee (which still could be separated in small, large, etc.) and that the
> money obtained from this would go to registery services and a bit of 
> the
> overall RIPE structure.
Under this suggestion, would one be able to pay only for the 
co-ordination services and not the registration ones?

Suppose I want to support the RIPE Routing Registry, plus dnsmon and 
possibly attend a dnssec course but I am not interested in registration 
services (because, for instance, the current policy does not allow me 
to get addresses from the RIR function of the NCC).
The NCC has more to offer than just registration services, in the area 
of co-ordination. Co-ordination usually requires a party that is not 
one of the co-ordinated ones.

> For the rest of the services, they would have to be financed by those 
> who
> want them. Again what is paid by those would go into a separate slot 
> and
> would finance their needs.
>
> However, if the RIPE is also recognized by EU institutions as THE 
> central
> body then some grants should be obtainable from the EU to work on EU
> projects related to services the RIPE can offer.  If such grants are
> obtained, then it is tax money from all EU citizens which finance some
> overall EU/RIPE activities which the RIPE is probably the best body in 
> EU to
> do.
In general, EU money tends to come with EU conditions. Careful 
consideration should be given to something like this.
In addition, the RIPE NCC service region is broader than just the EU, 
something that sometimes is forgotten by all involved.

Joao