Re: [ncc-services-wg] Incident Response Service (IRS) [was: UnneededRIPE tasks] (fwd)

["Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)" <]

Dear Hank,

> > > 2) is there any WG which could be polled or which has "adopted" this
> > >    activity for definition and development (or is expected to do so)?
> >
> > As soon as the AP2004 is approved, we (Daniel K and myself) will write an
> > implementation document, describing the activities proposed under section
> > 5 in more detail.This document will be circulated to, I'd guess, the
> > services-WG and discussed there.
>
> And you do not see this a procedurally wrong?  Wherever I work, whenever
> they want to do "something new", they need to write it up fully, indicate
> the budget and manpower needed and then submit to management.  Based on
> that info, management can make an intelligent decision.

I've seen this approach.  I've also worked at places where the LOI/TDR
approach was used: the first document ("Letter of Intent") gave a global
outline of the activity, goals, deadlines, costs, manpower, etc.  Only
when this was approved, a second document ("Technical Design Report") was
written discussing all the details.  I personally believe that this
approach makes much more sense, why waste time/money to work out details
_before_ there is consensus that the activity should be persued in the
first place.


> Instead, we have 1 paragraph describing what will be done in general and
> once the AP2004 is approved based on that, only then do we find out how
> much all this cost.

This is not correct.  There is indeed only one paragraph in the AP2004,
due to space constraints.  However, there is also the strategy paper:

  http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/hostcount.html

with more details about the IS activity.  This paper was discussed at
RIPE45 and people have been invited to comment on this document on the
tt-wg@localhost list.  Then the proposed budget:

  http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/budget2004-aoa97.html and
  http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/budget2004-aoa03.html

does contain an estimated budget for this activity.

If you have any specific questions about the 2 documents mentioned above,
I suggest that we take them to the tt-wg@localhost list.

Henk

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