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Re: [lir-wg] Discussion about RIPE-261

  • To: Nils Ketelsen < >
  • From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist < >
  • Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:23:34 +0200

So, what we really want is PI addresses. And with the current pratices they
just do not aggregate which also is a bad thing. This is why I think the
geographical approach already mentioned on the list (one netblock per
country, different sizes depending on population) currently is the approach
which fits that need best, I believe.
How do you come to that conclusion? Every other PI space will be with
another ISP. So even thought you might have everything close together
on a "human logic" level there is no way to aggregate the prefixes
together in the routing system. Unless of course you want to do it
PTT style where one is the one who routes this block.
I think in most cases the "human logic level" also works for routing. So
I guess many people will carry the complete routingtable for those countries
they communicate a lot with (mostly this will be the own country and some
nearby, but YMMV) and just have a few aggregates like "send all traffic to
$farcountry1 to uplink A, send all for $farcountry2 via uplink B etc".
...and if you are a "Tier-1" operator that is also selling services all across the globe and use one single AS-number, you will end up having to carry all those routes anyway....and guess what, the "Tier-1"s are coming to the conclusion that routes equals state equals costs. Cost need to be recovered. I think you can work out the rest.

I think this could be a good compromise between every multihomed user has to
be in every routing table and ongoing provider dependance.

It's a good idea, but the world doesn't really look that way.

- kurtis -

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