Re: [lir-wg] Discussion about RIPE-261

[Andre Oppermann <]

Michel Py wrote:
> 
> Andre,
> 
> > Andre Oppermann wrote:
> > We see a very common occurence here. The moment an open
> > and very competitive market has matured, the (remaining)
> > players start (whether implicit or explicit) to hinder
> > new entrancies into the market. This is either done by
> > denial of (direct) access or policy barriers.
> 
> You get it backwards. It is in the best interest of the router cartel to
> continue riding Moore's law forever and end up with a billion entries in
> the routing table which would allow them to keep renewing the installed
> router base every other year because naturally they cap memory and CPU
> in every model for the sole of being able to sell you a stinkin' new one
> two years later. And yes I am a stockholder of the router cartel.
> 
> The reason they say they can't guarantee being able to ride Moore's law
> is because they see a risk that it happens. The very fact that they are
> actually looking at alternatives to Moore is worrisome.

No, it's only hot air. Why don't they claim to look at alternatives
to 10Gig (and 100Gig) Ethernet? After all it's a damn high packet
per second rate they have to sustain to do wirespeed... And doing
just 1Gig is so much easier and don't have to develope any new chips.
It's all already done. Yea, why not just fire all engineers. We don't
need them anyway. There is nothing new to be developed. The limit is
reached!

There is no freaking way that a limit on routing table processing
table power has been reached when no such limit is claimed for the
packet forwarding rate. I don't care if they have to develop ASICs
for that purpose too.

BTW, you've shown me one statement (actually it's more of a thought,
and we don't see the context of the slide) from one little Juniper
engineer. I might get just remotely worried if all CTOs of all router
manufactors (who claim to have real backbone/core routers with full
ISP useable BGP) write in an SEC filing for their company that they've
reached the end and limit of router development (or at least of the
control plane functionality). Take a deep breath and then hold it...
until... until... until... you take another one...

-- 
Andre