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Re: more specific routes in today reality

  • To: "Vladimir A. Jakovenko" < >
  • From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist KPNQwest < >
  • Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:45:27 +0200 (MEST)
  • Cc: "lir-wg@localhost" < >
    "routing-wg@localhost" < >
  • Reply-to: Kurt Erik Lindqvist KPNQwest < >

> Don't forget about cheap sattelite channels :-)
> 
> Lets imagine situation - customer in a country, where all terrastical long-
> range channels are controlled by one big pro-government PTT. There isn't POPs 
> of any of "Tier-1 bla bla bla" providers. All of them can be reached only by 
> expensive long-rage terrastical or (less expensive) sattelite channel.

Well, this can ofcourse then be taken to the extreme. Let's assume that I
am cost concious resdient with a sattelite down-link (yupp, they exist),
and a DSL line and a Cable link. Should I not be allowed the same easy
choice of up-link as the corporate world? 

Let's then assume that I have my home on VoIP only so NAT is out. Do I get
my own AS-number and PA space then?

I think we all agree that the current routing model is broken and no
longer does what we would expect it to do. However, I think Randy is right
in that this will take at least 5 years to redo though. Just look at
addressing / CIDR /IPv6. That has taken what, 8 years? At least, and we
are not really near any deployment. A CIDR like solution of this is
simple. Filter.

> In this situation the most popular solution for local customer, who needs 
> reliable and cheap IP uplink and high speed access to regional Internet 
> resources, is to build two channels to local ISPs (not so reliable, but much
> more cheaper than even one external uplink) and to local IX. 

IXes are a bad example as just beeing present won't do. You need to get
peers as well. And if you are a company my guess is that most providers
rather sell you bandwidth than peer.

- kurtis -






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