RE: Refuse een assignment because it 'cannot' be routed?

["Herbert Baerten" <]

> >> Now a customer would like to get a static ip but does not want
> ONE static IP address? PA, I assume?

Yes, PA.


> >> If the customers sends a RIPE-141 request to the ISP, can the
> ISP assign a
> >> range but not route it to the customer?
>
> ... which would be extremely useful for ???

In order to force the customer to buy a more expensive service which
includes fixed ip!
Please understand that nor I nor my employer is doing this or even
advocating this practice. To the contrary: I'm just observing that it
happens and am so displeased about this that I am looking for ways to
counter it.


> >> Can it refuse the request on the grounds that it cannot route
> the assigned
> >> range to a dynamic ip?
>
> ... so, you want to rent a house and put a security guard on the entrance
> door not allowing people who bought it to move in. Interesting ...

I think it is more appropriate to state that someone is looking for a house
but all landlords he meets will move his front door every day unless he pays
tripple rent.

I suppose the question can be phrased more theoretically as:

"If a LIR is obliged to assign address space (is it?), wouldn't it make
sense to oblige a provider to route it"

or the other way'round:

"If an address space request is made, is the non-willingness of an ISP to
route it sufficient grounds to deny the request?"


> Well, there is no formal policy obligation for you to route the addresses
> you assigned, but what would those addresses then be good for?

That's the point. Can the customer somehow (e.g. by submitting a ripe-141)
force the ISP to assign him a static ip address? Or will it get him nowhere?


BTW, you seem to assume that I represent the ISP, not the customer. Perhaps
I should have added that I posed this question partly out of practical
personal interest as a home user interested in ADSL, and partly out of
theoretical professional interest as an employee at a LIR.
So I tried to state the case in an objective fashion :)


regards,
Herbert