RE: IP assignment for virtual webhosting

["Winfried Haug" <]

Hello Mirjam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lir-wg@localhost [
	    
	    
 Behalf Of
> Mirjam Kuehne
> Sent: Donnerstag, 18. November 1999 19:20
> To: Bhabuta, Denesh
> Subject: Re: IP assignment for virtual webhosting
>

>
> Just to clarify this issue from the RIPE NCC's point of view: In
> general all end-user assignments need to be registered in the
> database. In the specific case of dial-up users the concern was raised

do you check it ? do you look at all cases ? Do you have enough man-power
to check everything ?

What about the old assignment to the Companies, who were acting as last
resort and now have a huge amount of Class-B networks, which they use NOW
WITHOUT approval from RIPE ?
What about assignments which were made in the past, but not used and
will never be used in the public ?

There are many Networks in the Routing-Table without inetnum object in
the Database.

route:       151.15.0.0/16
descr:       INFOSTRADA
origin:      AS1267
mnt-by:      AS1267-MNT
changed:     ripe-dbm@localhost 19990205
source:      RIPE

...
route:       151.82.0.0/16
descr:       INFOSTRADA
origin:      AS1267
mnt-by:      AS1267-MNT
changed:     ripe-dbm@localhost 19991110
source:      RIPE

This are more than 60 (!) Class B networks and there are many more in the
RIPE DB !

A valid route object in the RIPE DB looks like that these networks are used
or will be used.

It could be an idea to check for route objects without inetnum object in the
DB.
Ripe could send out an email to these users requesting a valid network plan.
I
think we can get a lot of networks back to RIPE NCC in a very short period.


There are some organisations which got assignments in the past under old
conditions and circumstances


inetnum:     164.16.0.0 - 164.34.0.0
netname:     TELEKOM-BLK

Did RIPE ever request a valid network plan ?

All LIRs have to provide you network plans on request ! So before we discuss
how to save adress space concerning IPs for virtual web housing, RIPE should
start checking the old assignments.

Just my 0,02

Winfried