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Re: [ipv6-wg@ripe.net] DNS Weather Report 2004-09-07

  • To: Jeroen Massar < >
  • From: Jarno Lähteenmäki < >
  • Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 09:13:58 +0300


I'm not considering the report as a spam but...

The report would be more usefull if you send a summary on a monthly basis. Sending the report daily or even weekly is way too often...

If needed you can provide daily snapshots somewhere else
(a web page perhaps?).


--> Jarno Lähteenmäki


Jeroen Massar wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 17:07, Daniel Karrenberg wrote:

Since a storm seems to be rising about this and it threatens to leave the tea cup here is some perspective.

Which book is that from?

<SNIP>

On 08.09 00:00, Daniel Roesen wrote:

On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 11:49:48AM +0200, Daniel Karrenberg wrote:

On 07.09 01:08, Daniel Roesen wrote:

DNS WEATHER REPORT for selected infrastructure zones
====================================================
Please stop spamming mailing lists.
OK, you made me curious. Why do you (you are the first, all the other
feedback was overly positive) consider this "spamming"?
Sending *unsolicited* automatic reports to *multiple* mailing lists
is considered bad netiquette.

I really can't call it spam, there was nothing unsolicited inside it,
they where not autogenerated, did not contain any off-topic contents and
it did not advertise for anything.


In your case even more so since similar and better defined reports are available on demand from
more than one source.

Which sources may that be that report about nameservers?
(There is unfortunatly no IPv6-wg resource page and google can't
seem to find them for me either)

Next to that, it is quite apparent that the operator(s) in question
are not really watching their own infrastructure, which is basically
their work, at all.... that gives one to wonder...


It would have been more acceptable to say something like:
"Hey, I have made this useful report. What do you think about it?
If you are interested you can subscribe to regular reports here."

Indeed, where can I request to signup for this as I think it is very
useful, even more useful than the CIDR report, which doesn't change as
the people at the top are simply ignoring it anyways. Nameservers though
are technically important, if they are configured wrongly then they
don't work and they break stuff and especially at the level what was
being reported about I think it is a very important technical report.


These days netiquette is violated so frequently that most people
do not even care to point things out to violators;
they just ignore messages from people who do not behave socially. Procmail is an easy tool.

Indeed, that is the way most people do it and they do it silently
without making it publicly noticeable that they have something,
whatever that may be 'against' some person/company or his/her/it's
beliefs. That is why I always use one single mail address for posting
my own personal beliefs, if you want to add it to the killfile have fun
doing so, responses coming back from persons who don't like you won't
be productive in any way thus it only saves a lot of useless mails.

Greets,
 Jeroen

(Only took me <1 min to type this ;)



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