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Alpha minutes from the first EOF meeting.

  • From: Lars-Johan Liman SUNET < >
  • Date: Wed, 06 Jul 94 21:59:16 +0200
  • Cc: Bernhard Stockman < >

Friends,

As usual with me it's been a while since I first should have done
this. Now I have "forgotten" most of what we said at the meeting, and
will have to trust my most untrustworthy notes. I therefore urge you
to send any comments to the list (not to me directly, since my
vacation starts shortly) and I'll incorporate them as soon as I can.
I will unfortunately (? :-) be on vacation when you get together next
week.

I probably missed and misunderstood quite a lot (not to mention
typos!). Come on guys!  Show me what you've got! :-) :-)

				Cheers,
				  /Liman

(And please note that Bernhard Stockman doesn't seem to be on the list
yet ... :-)
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Here goes:

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			EUROPEAN OPERATORS FORUM
				MINUTES

Date:		June 22, 1994
Place:		Schiphol Hilton Hotel, Amsterdam
Chair:		Bernhard Stockman boss@localhost
Minutes by:	Lars-Johan Liman liman@localhost

Participants:

Erik-Jan Bos           (EJB)  SURFnet        Erik-Jan.Bos@localhost
Stephan Biesbroeck	(SB)  BELNET	     stephan@localhost
Per Bilse		(PB)  EUnet	     bilse@localhost
Rob Blokzijl		(RB)  Nikhef	     k13@localhost
Frode Greisen           (FG)  Ebone          Frode.Greisen@localhost
Haakan Hansson		(HH)  TIPnet	     hh@localhost		
Daniel Karrenberg	(DK)  RIPE NCC	     Daniel.Karrenberg@localhost
Glenn Kowack		(GK)  EUnet	     glenn@localhost
Lars-Johan Liman       (LJL)  Ebone	     liman@localhost
Peter Lothberg          (PL)  Stupi          roll@localhost
Eric Malmstroem		(EM)  Transpac SE    Eric.Malmstrom@localhost
Christian Michau	(CM)  RENATER	     michau@localhost
Keith Mitchell		(KM)  PIPEX	     keith@localhost
Dave Morton		(DM)  ECRC	     dave@localhost
Arnold Nipper		(AN)  Xlink	     nipper@localhost
Petri Ojala		(PO)  EUnet	     ojala@localhost
Bernhard Stockman       (BS)  Ebone          boss@localhost
Tim Streater		(TS)  Dante	     t.c.streater@localhost
Bernard Tuy             (BT)  RENATER        tuy@localhost

EDITORIAL NOTE: I remind you that this was a semi-informal meeting,
and that we decided to record only decisions. Therefore these minutes
are extremely terse. Other matters were discussed, but these are the
decisions I have in my notes.

1. Bernhard Stockman opened the meeting and bid everyone welcome.

2. Lars-Johan Liman volunteered to take brief minutes of decisions.

3. The agenda sent out by Bernhard was "approved".

4. Bernhard laid out the reasons for creating the EOF and proposed a
   model for how it should work. The matter was discussed.

   Decisions:

   *) Next meeting is to be held in Paris, July 15. Christian and
      Bernhard T volunteered to host the meeting.

   *) Peter L volunteered to chair the next meeting.

   *) Daniel volunteered to set up a mailing list eof-list@localhost
      and to draft the agenda for the next meeting and send it to the
      mailing list before July 1.

   *) Bernhard S and Glenn volunteered to draft a charter for the EOF
      and send it to the mailing list before July 1.

5. Bernhard described the American routing arbiter system.

   Decision:

   *) Daniel will contact Peter Graham graham@localhost, who has
      the financial responsibilities at the KTHNOC, to seek ways of
      cooperation between RIPE NCC and the Swedish Routing Lab
      regarding further development of the route server concept.

6. July 1 upcoming problems were discussed.

   Decision:

   *) Keith and Glenn to draft a "generic" bilateral agreement for
      interconnectivity between national service providers.

7. The November 1 disconnect of the NSF-net regionals was discussed.

   Decision:

   *) Put forward a message to the IEPG to handle this matter, and to
      ensure that there are solutions to the upcoming connectivity
      problems, and to put preassure on the players to inform the
      Internet on how to maintain e.g. connectivity between Europe and
      the Pacific. Bernhard S agreed to do this.

8. The point "agenda of the next meeting" was revisited, and the
   following points and delegations were decided upon:

   + Routing registry architecture to be presented by Daniel.

   + Routing and traffic exchange models between national service
     providers to be presented by Glenn & Keith.

   + Connectivity to other continents through the US, status to be
     presented by Bernhard S.

   + Charter for the EOF to be drafted by Glenn & Bernhard S.

   + D-GIX issues.

9. The meeting was closed.

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