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Re: [enum-wg] Italian Nameservers for 9.3.164.arpa. dead?

  • To: Jim Reid jim@localhost
  • From: Patrik Fältström paf@localhost
  • Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:29:15 +0100
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  • Cc: Bernie Hoeneisen bhoeneis@localhost, RIPE ENUM WG enum-wg@localhost
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On 21 jan 2008, at 20.14, Jim Reid wrote:

As John says, a mechanism could be developed to notify a Tier-1 registry (and ITU?) about a broken ENUM delegation. But this is probably a discussion for the Powers That Be. It wouldn't hurt I suppose for this WG to suggest a suitable mechanism. Any volunteers?

So far the consensus I have seen has been that this "watch" mechanism easily can be an opt-in system where the registry ask someone to notify them. Someone that do the tests the registry think is appropriate.

But, as John hinted at, management in e164.arpa is highly sensitive (as we all know) and also ITU-T is involved (not only RIPE NCC and IAB). There is an entity responsible for +39, and that entity has requested/approved a delegation. They are the ones that should keep track off the delegation in cooperation with the DNS operator THEY have chosen. If the DNS operator do not do their job, some clauses hopefully exists in some contract we do not know about that have some clauses that can be used in situations like these. Clauses that in many causes are not used without discussions in court, and possibly civil court cases when people are suing each other.

I think neither RIPE NCC, nor ITU and definitely not ENUM wg of RIPE want to be part of such discussions.

That said, maybe we in this wg should finalize the document that recommend a registry to "keep track of their delegation -- for example via an opt-in mechanism that check the delegation"?

Carsten, was this on your table, or do I remember wrong?

   Patrik

P.S. If the delegation is only to two IP addresses, in the same subnet (which we all know is poor management) what is the chance they would have done the opt-in? Slim, but still not _OUR_ problem.

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