[ec-tf] Re: I suggest creation of a "collaboration wg" already now on Friday!

[Malcolm Hutty malcolm@localhost]

Patrik Fältström wrote:
> Dear Task Force members, contact persons and chair of RIPE!
>
> Unfortunately I had to leave the meeting early Monday due to a lunch 
> commitment. I am happy I saw consensus that we should create a working 
> group, but I did not see (when I left) that we had consensus on whether 
> the wg should be created this week (i.e. tomorrow) or at RIPE-57 (or 
> later).
Let me report informally here broadly the consensus position reached at 
the Taskforce meeting, as I saw it. I'll list them as separate points.
1. Some mechanism is needed to allow a forum for review of these 
matters, and to maintain the report of this Taskforce as a living 
document. (strong consensus)
2. We should therefore form a Working Group (fairly strong consensus)

3. It should not be called the "Enhanced Cooperation Working Group", nor 
should the Charter explicitly rely on that term, as this comes with a 
set of baggage that is open to misunderstanding. Instead, we should come 
up with a new title and not adopt the charter in the current draft of 
the report.
4. We should not formally create a WG until we have agreed a title and a 
charter.
5. We need a little time to discuss and agree on what the Charter and 
title should be. While there is a lot of support for doing this quickly, 
and there was strong support for having the WG up and running at RIPE57, 
the consensus was that this couldn't be completed this week.
As well as this, I personally believe both the impact of the Taskforce's 
report and the value and legitimacy of a WG will enhanced in the eyes of 
outside stakeholders if we are able to say in simple terms
	"RIPE accepted the Taskforce's report and followed its
	recommendation to establish a WG".

This is another reason to want the formal start of a WG to coincide with 
the completion and dissolution of the Taskforce. However, that doesn't 
mean we should hold back from preparation in advance.
I am therefore planning to propose to the plenary
i) to acknowledge that in principle a WG should be created in this area, 
and to expect a formal proposal to be circulated in advance of RIPE57 
for approval at the very start the meeting
ii) that time for a WG meeting be scheduled at RIPE57 in anticipation


Regards,

Malcolm.
Chair, Enhanced Cooperation Taskforce.