Re: [dns-wg] Re: rev delegation robot and selection of NS to pull zone from

["Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" Woeber@localhost]

Ralf Weber wrote:
> Moin!
> 
> On 20.11.2008, at 20:14, Anand Buddhdev wrote:
> 
>> When the RIPE NCC's provisioning system sees ns.ripe.net in the list  of
>> name servers for /16 IPv4 and /32 IPv6 zones, it looks up the SOA  record
>> of the zone, extracts the MNAME from there, and looks up A and AAAA
>> records for the MNAME. These are then used to attempt zone transfers  for
>> that zone. The provisioning system does not use any servers from the  NS
>> RRset.
> 
> Why? I mean for me that would be one natural source of information 
> another of course would be the nserver entries in the RIPE database. 

Beware - I am not a DNS expert...

My feeling is that the current behaviour is quite reasonable. Of course
we might suggest to look at the NS records (in addition maybe), but I
presume that many folks do not allow zone transfers from *all* NS in the
set.

Unless we find a "clever" way to provide the info about the name server(s)
to try for a transfer, overall, we would just increase the number of failed
attempts. Whether that would do any harm (at the NCC's or customer's end)
is a different story, maybe.

> Using these source also would increase the resiliency of the zone 
> transfers as the server then usually has more than one source to 
> transfer the zone from. I think that this is what people using hidden/
> distribution masters want to have also, at least from my experience 
> with our customers using this.
> 
> [..]
> 
>> One solution is to list a server in the MNAME field which will provide
>> zone transfers. Alternatively, you can choose not to use ns.ripe.net  as
>> a secondary - it is no longer mandatory for /16 IPv4 and /32 IPv6
>> reverse zones.
> 
> Both are options, but I still would like to know if it wouldn't make 
> more sense to use nserver records or NS RRset. Do you have some 
> statistics on how often the MNAME is not in the nserver/NS RRset?

I definitely don't have any figures.

> So long
> -Ralf

Wilfried