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> 2. RE: RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update. (Brett Carr)
> 3. RE: RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update. (Alexander Gall)
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> > 1. RE: RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update. (Alexander Gall)
> > 2. RE: RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update. (Randy Bush)
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> > Message: 1
> > From: Alexander Gall gall@localhost
> > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:02:49 +0100
> > To: "Brett Carr" brettcarr@localhost
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> > Subject: RE: [dns-wg] RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update.
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> > On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:24:45 +0100, "Brett Carr" brettcarr@localhost said:
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> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Alexander Gall [ ]
> > >> Sent: 28 November 2005 08:47
> > >> To: Brett Carr
> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [dns-wg] RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update.
> > >>
> > >> Brett,
> > >>
> > >> What's going on with 195.in-addr.arpa? All DNSSEC records
> > >> are gone, e.g.
> > >>
> >
> > > We saw some zone file corruption during the early hours of the morning,
> > this
> > > caused a failsafe operation to takeover and hence the zones were
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> > > without signatures. I've investigated and fixed the corruption and so now
> > > everything is back to normal.
> >
> > Thanks. Having such a failsafe procedure is probably a good idea.
> > However, it caused my sub-zone to be marked as bogus, which is bad
> > (i.e. my cache with only the key for 195.in-addr.arpa configured as
> > trusted key returned SERVFAIL for all queries within
> > 176.195.in-addr.arpa). I think that you must not leave the DS records
> > in the zone when all other DNSSEC RRsets are removed (and the DS
> > record for my zone was definitely there). Otherwise, a verifier will
> > find a DS record but is unable to check its authenticity and has to
> > declare the zone as bogus.
> >
> > --
> > Alex
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> > Message: 2
> > From: Randy Bush randy@localhost
> > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 06:01:50 -1000
> > To: "Brett Carr" brettcarr@localhost
> > > Subject: RE: [dns-wg] RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update.
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> > > We saw some zone file corruption during the early hours of the
> > > morning, this caused a failsafe operation to takeover and hence
> > > the zones were published without signatures.
> >
> > considering the obvious attack paths this opens, one assumes that
> > this 'failsafe' would not be part of the operation of a secure
> > zone in normal, as opposed to trial, operation.
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> > randy
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> Message: 2
> From: "Brett Carr" brettcarr@localhost
> To: "'Alexander Gall'" gall@localhost
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> Subject: RE: [dns-wg] RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update.
> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:38:58 +0100
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alexander Gall []
> > Sent: 25 November 2005 15:22
> > To: Brett Carr
> > > Subject: RE: [dns-wg] RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update.
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> > Brett,
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:41:34 +0100, "Brett Carr"
> > brettcarr@localhost said:
> >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Alexander Gall []
> > >> Sent: 25 November 2005 11:48
> > >> To: Brett Carr
> > >> > >> Subject: RE: [dns-wg] RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >>
> > >> However, I think there is a problem with ns.ripe.net. It doesn't
> > >> return DNSSEC RRsets when the DO flag is set in the query:
> > >>
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I found a small config typo, which I have fixed, it should
> > be ok now though.
> >
> > Thanks, it looks good now.
> >
> > Did you have a chance to look (or have somebody else have a
> > look :-) at
> > <https://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/delcheck/delcheck2.cgi> for the
> > zone 176.195.in-addr.arpa? I can see two problems:
> >
> > - For some reason, the tool doesn't get replies to queries for NS and
> > DNSKEY records at our name servers {merapi,scsnms}.switch.ch with
> > the DO flag set. The tool then (erroneously) concludes that these
> > RRsets are inconsistent among the servers for the zone.
> >
> > I see the queries coming in on our servers from 193.0.0.214. Could
> > it be that the replies are filtered somwhere in your network (having
> > strange flags and all that)?
>
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> We have now fixed this after finding some strange (udp fragment) filtering
> behaviour on our Juniper router, We will be carrying out more (lab based)
> tests on this and will report the results to Juniper.
>
> Regards
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> Brett
>
> --
> Brett Carr RIPE Network Coordination Centre
> Systems Engineer -- Operations Group Amsterdam, Netherlands
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> Message: 3
> From: Alexander Gall gall@localhost
> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:59:37 +0100
> To: "Brett Carr" brettcarr@localhost
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> Subject: RE: [dns-wg] RIPE NCC DNSSEC on the reverse tree update.
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> On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:38:58 +0100, "Brett Carr" brettcarr@localhost said:
>
> >> Did you have a chance to look (or have somebody else have a
> >> look :-) at
> >> <https://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/delcheck/delcheck2.cgi> for the
> >> zone 176.195.in-addr.arpa? I can see two problems:
> >>
> >> - For some reason, the tool doesn't get replies to queries for NS and
> >> DNSKEY records at our name servers {merapi,scsnms}.switch.ch with
> >> the DO flag set. The tool then (erroneously) concludes that these
> >> RRsets are inconsistent among the servers for the zone.
> >>
> >> I see the queries coming in on our servers from 193.0.0.214. Could
> >> it be that the replies are filtered somwhere in your network (having
> >> strange flags and all that)?
>
>
> > We have now fixed this after finding some strange (udp fragment) filtering
> > behaviour on our Juniper router, We will be carrying out more (lab based)
> > tests on this and will report the results to Juniper.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Alex
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