Re: [db-wg] Abuse Complaint procedures

[der Mouse <]

> The RIPE community decided that only the maintainers of objects in
> the database may make changes to data.

Fine; that means that RIPE's options are limited to bugging the
assignee or revoking the grant of space.  Seems somewhat crippled to
me, but that's a RIPE-internal problem (if it's a problem at all).

> The RIPE NCCs role is to implement this decision for the RIPE
> community.  The RIPE Whois Database is a public database and
> therefore, although we (the RIPE NCC) aid in its operation, we are
> not responsible for its content.

RIPE - by which I mean the RIR, what you're calling "RIPE NCC" if I've
understood you correctly - keeps trying to wash its hands of its
responsibility this way.

You can't.  At most, you can, perhaps, make people think otherwise.
But you handle the money, you accept address space from the IANA and
you parcel it out in smaller pieces; you have to accept the
responsibility that matches that authority.

Or else, as I said before, you have a broken system, in which abuses
grow more and more severe until the system collapses or changes bring
authority and responsibility into line with one another.  It's as
inexorable - and as futile to try to fight - as gravity.  (Indeed, I'd
just write RIPE space off and let the process happen naturally, except
that (a) I'd kinda like to be able to communicate with the people I
know in Europe now and (b) the abuses involved produce effects that
spill over into the rest of the net.)

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