Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [db-wg] RIPE51 DB-WG Draft Agenda V1]]

[Andre Koopal <]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:38:14AM +0200, Shane Kerr wrote:
> Wilfried,
> 
> I'm not 100% sure what the AP is, but let me explain what we have done.
> 
> We have changed the behaviour of the database so that when you do a "-c"
> lookup, we return the IRT object in the reply. I thought this was the
> desired behaviour. You can see it here:
> 
> http://www.ripe.net/fcgi-bin/whois?-c+193.78.240
> 
> It is possible to change the behaviour further, to make "-c" more useful
> I think. One way of doing this might be to try to find the "best" reply
> on a "-c" query. So, something like:
> 
> - Find the closest matching INETNUM/INET6NUM object with "mnt-irt:"
>   - return the INETNUM/INET6NUM object (along with the IRT object)
> - If there is no INETNUM/INET6NUM, perform a normal lookup
> 
> Right now you have to do this on the client side.
> 
> Anyway, we can certainly discuss this at the working group session.
> 
> --
> Shane Kerr
> RIPE NCC

To be clear on my proposal, what I basicly wants is that 'whois ip-number'
gives the correct abuse information. As we decided to go with the irt-object
IMHO that query (without any options) should then output the relevant
irt-object. That is the rational behind my proposal.

Regards,

Andre
> 
> Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
> 
> >Thanks to Andre for reminding me about that item!
> >
> >I am a tad puzzled, because a DB-WG Action on this reads:
> >
> >48.6	RIPE NCC	To change DB behaviour to return IRT object
> >			[Complete]
> >
> >However, neither the web interface nor the RIPE whois client does
> >return the irt information. Rather I get a route object under the
> >heading of
> >
> >% Information related to 'prefix/length ASinfo'
> >
> >Any insight on that?
> >Thanks,
> >Wilfried.
> >
> >-------- Original Message --------
> >Subject: Re: [Fwd: [db-wg] RIPE51 DB-WG Draft Agenda V1]
> >Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:28:57 +0200
> >From: Andre Koopal <andre.koopal@localhost
> >To: Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet woeber@localhost
> >, RIPE NCC Meeting Registration meeting@localhost,
> >wg-chairs@localhost
> >References: <434BB603.4050409@localhost>
> >
> >On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 01:54:27PM +0100, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>  Dear DB-WG folks, Chairs, Meeting!
> >>
> >>  Here is the 2nd draft of an agenda for the DB-WG next week at RIPE51
> >>  in Amsterdam.
> >>
> >>  For time slot allocation please refer to the most up-to-date meeting
> >>  plan at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-51/meeting-plan.html
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Hi Wilfried,
> >
> >A while ago I mailed the db working group to request a changed behavour
> >when you lookup inetnum's.
> >
> >In principle what I would like to see is that when an inetnum is returned,
> >that the IRT object that is relevant to this inetnum is returned as well.
> >
> >For example, if you lookup inetnum '193.78.240' you get that inetnum
> >returned, and the irt-object 'IRT-MCI-NL', as that is specified in the
> >inetnum above: '193.78/15'.
> >
> >Note that this is different then the current -c behavour as that would, in
> >this example' return the inetnum for '193.78/15' instead.
> >
> >Can you add this discussion on the agenda as well?
> >
> >Unfortunately I won't be able to visit the WG session myself, I hope the
> >proposal is clear this way.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Andre Koopal
> >  
> >
> >>  Best regards,
> >>  Wilfried.
> >>  ________________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >>A. Administrative Matters
> >>- scribe
> >>- list of participants
> >>- agenda
> >>- minutes
> >>- "remote participation" coordination (if needed)
> >>
> >>B. DB Update (N.N., RIPE NCC)                                     [~15 min]
> >>
> >>C. Review of security mechanisms in the DB (Peter K., denic.de)   [~15 min]
> >>   . quality of CRYPT-PW, CRYPT-MD5, X.509
> >>   . level of vulnerabilty in current dataset
> >>
> >>D. State of whois services, developments? (WW144, N.N., RIPE NCC) [~15 min]
> >>
> >>E. IRIS pilot frontend to whois (N.N., RIPE NCC)                  [~10 min]
> >>
> >>F. Fact finding: RoutingReg facilities at RIRs (Gert D, SpaceNet) [~15 min]
> >>
> >>X. Impact of "PDP" on how the DB-WG operates (WW144)              [~15 min]
> >>   . ref: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-350.html
> >>
> >>Y. Input from other WGs
> >>   . DNS: secureDNS requirements for the DB
> >>
> >>Z. AOB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
> >  
> >
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