Re: Deletion of German domains

[Andre Koopal andre@localhost]

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:04:27AM +0200, Michael van Elst wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Andre Koopal wrote:
> > > 
> > > given
> > > 
> > >   whois -h whois.ripe.net dom.ain.de
> > > 
> > > returning <handle>-DENIC, so i then follow with
> > > 
> > >   whois -h whois.ripe.net <handle>-DENIC
> > > 
> > > i can only conclude, givem the first quoted paragraph above, that the data
> > > must be manually entered in both databases or that ripe mirrors denic's
> > > database.
> > > 
> > Seems like we need a referal meganisme for nic-handles?
> 
> You would need global nic-handles that somehow identify their database.
> Unfortunately this does not work if there is no single handle namespace.

All nic-hdls we are talking about seems to end in the name of their source:
-RIPE, -IS, -DENIC (or -DE?) so in my opinion that makes them both unique
and gives an easy way to build a referal meganism. The only handles that
fails this are the internic hdls, but they have always been separate ...

And we don't really want cross references for nic-hdls, although it might
have the advantage of a single place to maintain your handle, but we want
to extend the referal meganism in place for domains to work with handles
as well.

All IMHO.

Regards,

Andre
> 
> Fortunately this isn't really a problem as I (we?) don't want handle cross
> references. Such cross references only make sense if you want to achieve
> that a single person has a unique handle in all databases.
> 
> While a unique and single handle for a person is a nice looking idea it
> simply does not work as maintainership of handles becomes more complex
> with the increasing number of database maintainers involved.
> 
> When the person data is stored together with the domain data the
> handles are again only locally valid and a referral of the domain
> also resolves the person data nicely. There is no need for more
> complex mechanisms.
> 
> BTW, those that really want cross references can translate whois
> data into hypertext and use URLs to locate data on arbitrary servers.
> 
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