RE: object definitions

["Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" <]

>Subject: object definitions
>
>Hello,

  Hi Chris!
  
  [ nice to meet you! ]

>Work here at the NCC on the Re-Implementation Project (RIP), 
>is well under way.

  Cute acronym, but don't get near Routing with that one :-)

>We have been looking closely at the existing definitions of objects
>incorporating them into our new design.
>
>We thought that now might be a good time for getting ideas on any
>changes in the object definitions that the wg would like to see.
>
>Eg. 
>  - "mandatory" mnt_by field in domain

  From a DB-WG's point of view, change requests for this one should be
  coming from the users of the Domain-Registry. I'd feel much more at ease
  if the request to change things would come from / at least be endorsed
  by the relevant WG (TLD-WG, probably?)

>  - "mandatory" mnt_by field in inetnum

  Likewise, just s/Domain-Registry/IP-Registry/ (LIR-WG?)

>  - "mandatory" mnt_by field in person

  This is probably something DB-WG can't push away to somewhere else :-)

>(instead of the current - "optional".)
>
>(Eg. to provide some sort of indication of how much protection
> users have against someone else deleting all their domains.  Some
> users may not even realize that it is possible.)

  In case we want to work on the awareness (first, even before deploying
  the new SW?), we could think about putting some sort of 
  "(weakest/used) protection indicator" into the ack-messages?
  
  Something anlong the lines of:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The following objects were processed.

New OK: [inetnum] 193.170.2.0 - 193.170.2.255
                  protection: NONE

Modified: [person] Spider Tarantula Woman (SPT1-RIPE)
                   protection: ACONET-LIR-MNT, PGPKEY-DBC579D4

New OK: [domain] crack.ac.at
                 protection: MAIL-FROM .*@localhost\.univie\.ac\.at
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  Maybe this is not a bad idea, anyway?

>Existing object definitions can be found at:
>http://www.ripe.net/db/reimp/design/er/er_whois.html
>
>
>Chris.
>
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  Thanks for bringing this up,
  and could the other WG chairs please indicate their preference for where
  to deal with that?
  
  TIA,
  Wilfried.

PS: Chris, I hope your question indicates that the NCC is already very far
    down the road with implemenetation and testing, rather than fixing
    that very early on for whatever reason? I hope the new SW design still 
    allows for modifying these things by way of some site config facility?

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