Re: Adding nic handles to contact objects without one

Hello,

Joao Luis Silva Damas joao@localhost writes:

>  "Eamonn" Eamonn@localhost writes:
>  * 
>  * Hi Joao,
>  * 
>  * I'd like to know what exactly are the advantages (and to whom) to
>  * adding a nic-hdl to person objects which don't already have one ?
>  * 
> 
> I think there are benefits for everyone. The database becomes more coherent, 
> ambiguity between different people with the same name disappears (especially 
> if as you say below, references by name are then substituted by references to
>  NIC Handles).
> 
>  * In some cases a person (without a nic-hdl) has their name referenced
>  * in other Db objects. This was before nic-hdls were mandatory. So if
>  * you add a nic-hdl to such a person's person object what can be done to
>  * those objects which reference his/her name ?
> 
> That, I think, is a discussion for these lists. Either the user does it or the 
> RIPE NCC can do it if users wish to. Of course this can only be done for 
> references by name corresponding to names that are unique in the database, 
> otherwise we wouldn't know who to assign the object to and we shouldn't.

It would be a great pleasure for us, if the RIPE NCC could do this task.
We have some very old assigments which lack the nic-hdls. So
if we only had to sort out the ambigious person objects it would be very helpful.

But...
>  * 
>  * There is no way of distinguishing the names referenced in the contact
>  * attributes of these objects since a similar name can refer to
>  * different people.
>  * 
> 
> Indeed.

it should be remarked that the person object has been assigned a nic-handle
by the RIPE-NCC so that a human can easier recognize the old object and 
can update the referenced objects. 

For example:

remarks: nic-handle added by the RIPE-NCC consistency project (19990301)

> 
>  * Then you have the problem where these people created a new person
>  * object for themselves when nic-hdls became mandatory and left their
>  * old person object for dead. How will you overcome these old person
>  * objects ?
>  * 
> 
> Yes, that happened in the past. The software can cope with that now so we 
> shouldn't see cases like those any more.
> The cleanup I think is best done within the consistency project which is right 
> now regaining speed (more on that soon...)

Regards,

    Andreas Wittkemper


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