Re: Whois database and list of networks

Daniele,
        Thank you for  your  proposal.  We  all  agree  that  the
        aggregates  should be stored somehow in the Ripe database
        and that  the  current  structure  does  not  allow  such
        representations   of   blocks/aggregates.   This  is  now
        becoming  the  main  priority  of  the   routing-wg   and
        (probably)  the  Ripe  NCC.  A  proposal will be sent out
        very soon now, and we'll then be able to discuss this  in
        more details.  I'm sure your input will be considered and
        appreciated.

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Jean-Michel

>----- Text sent by Daniele Vannozzi follows -------
> 
> We  would like to know your opinion about this problem and our proposal.
> The  GARR-NIS manages a whois database  (whois.nis.garr.it)  where  each
> network  is described with the RIPE database format plus other  "italian
> GARR-NIS"  tags. We produce the access lists for the GARR border routers
> starting from GARR-NIS whois database (we use the nlc tool).
> In addition to that we are requested to produce the "aggregate" networks
> list (CIDR) from GARR-NIS database as well.
> 
> In  our  opinion  it  is  difficult to get  the right information  about
> network blocks  from  the  whois  database  as  it is currently  managed
> because many network  blocks  are  splitted  in smaller blocks  (usually
> corresponding  to  the really announced networks or because of different
> contact point).
> 
> We would like  to announce the  whole  original block  while maintaining
> into the GARR-NIS database the splitted blocks.
> An additional  gain  using  this  scheme  would  be  to  store different
> rev-srv: server for each block for example).
> 
> We have thought the following solution:  add a new tag inet-block:  into
> the network object which describes the original block size.  In this way
> it is possible  to store in  the same  object entry both the information
> for  route  aggregates  (inet-block:)  and  other  data  we  need  (like
> rev-srv:, contact people, etc).
> 
> This is a example:
> 
> inetnum: 193.204.160.0 - 193.204.161.0
> netname: ROMA3-NET
> inet-block: 193.204.160.0 - 193.204.167.0
> country: IT
> admin-c: Fabio Martinelli
> tech-c: Aldo Altamore
> connect: GARR
> aut-sys: AS137
> bdrygw-l: INFN-MIL INFN-CNAF
> rev-srv: decsrv.caspur.it
> rev-srv: dns.nis.garr.it
> rev-srv: matrm3.mat.uniroma3.it
> ......
> ......
> 
> inetnum: 193.204.162.0 - 193.204.167.0
> netname: ROMA3-NET
> inet-block: 193.204.160.0 - 193.204.167.0
> country: IT
> admin-c: Fabio Martinelli
> tech-c: Aldo Altamore
> connect: LOCAL
> .......
> .......
> 
> Please let us know your opinion.
> 
> 
>                             The GARR-NIS Staff
> 
> Daniele Vannozzi                 Phone:     +39 50 593280
> GARR-NIS                         Phone NIS: +39 50 593360
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> 


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Jean-Michel