RE: Internet Registry Object

["Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" <]

  Dear all,
  
  lend me a couple of minutes to describe my expectations, without going
  into technical implementation details, as described by Daniel below...
  
  1. How about using proven and widely known tools and info-channels?
  
  For me this means putting objects into the database, 
  and maybe having them guarded (for ease of update). 
  I don't really believe in manual update procedures...
  
  Finding info should be possible both through the Interactive Info
  Service at the NCC, and probably through the WWW interface.
  
  2. Lets investigate a setup, 

  - where we get the over-all info from the document store (the envelope),
  - more details by looking into a WWW compound document and getting
  - the details dynamically out of the database (clicking on an item).
  
  Please feel free to give me a blow on the head...
  
  Cheers,
  Wilfried.
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Daniel said:

I have an action to propose a "registry" object for the RIPE database.

Defining such an object is not so much of a problem. In fact
we already have the information needed in tagged format.

Look at the Irish Internet registries as an example:

org:       EUnet IE
status:	   Provider
person:    Michael Nowlan
address:   O'Reilly Institute
address:   Trinity College
address:   Dublin 2
country:   Ireland (ie)
phone:     +353 1 671 9361
phone:     +353 1 702 1787
fax-no:    +353 1 677 2204
e-mail:    mn@localhost

org:       HEAnet
status:    Provider
person:    Mike Norris
address:   21 Fitzwilliam Square
address:   Dublin 2
country:   Ireland (ie)
phone:     +353 1 6612748
fax:       +353 1 6610492
e-mail:    mnorris@localhost

org:       IE EUnet
status:	   Registry of Last Resort
person:    Michael Nowlan
address:   O'Reilly Institute
address:   Trinity College
address:   Dublin 2
country:   Ireland (ie)
phone:     +353 1 671 9361
phone:     +353 1 702 1787
fax-no:    +353 1 677 2204
e-mail:    mn@localhost


However putting this in the database is not all. We need to define
a querying mechanism. This is where the problem starts.

Options:

1) Return all the regsitries on queries for the country code together
with the toplevel domain object.

2) Return all registries on queries for "cc-reg" or some such magic.

3) Add a special flag to whois to query for registries.

All these options are not very applealing because all of them
have a big potential for user confusion. Also I am convinced
that this information should always be presented together with
some information about what a local registry is and what it is
not.

What did we want to achieve by putting this information in the database?

- easy updates via the normal means

- access to up to date information at all times between publications
  of the local registry list

We can achieve the -more important- second goal by making this information
available via the RIPE document store together with the explanatory
information. This could be implemented quickly (before the RIPE meeting).

The first goal cannot be achieved that way. But since the amount of info
and changes is expected to be small, the NCC can process update requests
manually.

So my conclusion is not to include this in the database but in the
document store.

If I have not considered some important argument, please let me know
pricately or via a discussion on these lists.

If there is consensus we will implement it that way.

Daniel
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