RE: [ca-tf] Next steps & Write-up of the CA-TF kick-off meeting

["Martin Papik" <]

I totally agree, we need clear goals or we're doomed. Some of the goals are listed below (in random order). Please add anything I left out. And not all need to be a part of this project. Right now we need to clarify what this project will be about, what we're going to put a chunk of our lives into.


The actual goals:

* Better accuracy of data regarding IP address allocations
* Legal accountability of IP address usage
* Increased routing security


Supportive goals:

* design/build infrastructure, both technical (CA, protocols, etc) and non technical (policies, procedures) to support the certification process
* document policies, procedures, typical examples (small ISP, large telco, multinational company, etc.)
* make it a viable option for everybody
* make it a desired choice for most
* educate people why they want it (even they've never heard of it, especially)
* decide on data validity hierarchy (e.g. WHOIS supplemented by certificates or vice versa)
* do a case study of what segment of resource holders would cooperate, which would not and why (for both answers if possible)
* design the transition between the current state and the desired end result
* consider technical implications and requirements (data availability, fault tolerance, data access)
* consider non-technical implications and requirements (legal responsibility, disputes, penalties, changes to existing procedures, question of IP address ownership/sale)
* eat a lot of good lunches and dinners in good company, have fun and be merry


Martin



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ca-tf-admin@localhost [
	    
	    
] On Behalf Of
> Vasily Dolmatov
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:03 PM
> To: 'Henk Uijterwaal'; 'Andrew de la Haye'
> Subject: RE: [ca-tf] Next steps & Write-up of the CA-TF kick-off meeting
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > It looks like we then have the following topics with
> > questions and open issues:
> It seems that for reasonable discussion of mentioned below topics we need
> first of all to determine goals which we wish to achieve from
> certification
> implementation, both as short-term goals as well as long-term goals.
> Setting of different goals (and even different order of their achievement)
> can change drastically meaning of statements below and definitely will
> change the contents of these statements.
> 
> So, I propose to start from setting goals, I hope one 2-week "timeslot"
> will
> be enough for that, but it is necessary to determine it, agree upon it and
> _write_it_down_ for having possibility to reread it during discussion
> process.
> Otherwise we can fall in the bottomless pit of endless discussing of
> practical steps having in mind different pictures of the world. ;)
> 
> >
> >    a) Checks on customers seeking certification
> >    b) Revocation of certs and resources
> >    c) How to generate a critical mass of users
> >    d) End users and PI space
> >    e) Resource Transfers
> >    f) Certificate repository
> >    g) Policy issues
> >    h) Open questions
> >    i) Anything that we forgot.
> >
> > These are 9 areas.  The TF has to be ready by RIPE55
> > (October), or in 5 months time.  If we substract a bit of
> > time to prepare a report, this gives us approximately 2-3
> > weeks per topic.
> >
> > I suggests, for the lack of a better idea, to address these
> > topics in this order and give ourselves 2 weeks/topic (and a
> > bit more during the summer months with people vacationing).
> > Does this sound reasonable?
> >
> > Henk
> >
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