Re: [address-policy-wg] Revisiting RIPE Policy Proposal 2007-01

[Hank Nussbacher hank@localhost]

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gert Doering wrote:

> > I did find this:
> > http://www.ripe.net/news/gm-october-2008.html
> > Interesting that 52 attendees out of 6000 RIPE members are able to make
> > such a change.
> Note that I'm not a lawyer - but as far as I understand, this is how the
> articles of the NCC are set up.  The majority of the LIRs (+proxy votes)
> that attend the AGM vote for the board members and decide on the charging
> scheme (and possible changes to the articles).
>
> I could now argue "the remaining LIRs could have sent proxy votes" and
> then you can answer "we haven't been invited" - we're turning in a circle,
> and this is not a good situation and needs to be sorted out.
This troubles me.  Imagine RBN setting up 40-50 extra-small LIRs all for 
under 200-300KEuro and then manipulating the RIPE voting to favor almost 
any agenda they may have.  Having such a criticial infrastructure such as 
RIPE being "adjusted" by just 52 votes (less than 1% of its members) is 
sheer madness IMHO.
I would have hoped that the RIPE NCC would address this issue and 
encourage members to come and vote - give a free 8GB DOK if that is what 
is needed. :-)
> I'm sorry if I came across as "arrogant" here.  That wasn't my intention
> - I really thought that all LIRs would receive these invitations, and I
> think the best way to sort this out might be to ask lir-help@localhost to
> look into their records - and depending on the outcome, it might be a
> good idea to make sure that AGM invitations are definitely distributed
> to the listed admin-c and tech-c contacts for a LIR.
Gert, I don't think you came across arrogant at all.  But in addition to 
distributing the AGM invites to not just ncc-announce but to admin-c and 
tech-c as you suggest, I would suggest we somehow get a larger pool of 
LIRs involved to vote - otherwise we may wake up in the near future to 
some very strange new policies.
-Hank

> Gert Doering
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