Re: [address-policy-wg] Some observations on the differences in the various transfer policy proposals

[Izumi Okutani izumi@localhost]

Geoff,


I've read your article and thanks for sharing your observation.

Your classification of registry's role and how it will change before and
after the IPv4 exhaustion(RIRs' pool becomes unavailable) was
interesting and helpful in clearly identifying what the remaining role
for RIR will be.

While I agree that effectiveness of regulation is linked to specific
benefits (in the case of current situation, ISPs follow RIR policies
because they need to receive subsequent allocations from RIR), I'm not
sure how RIRs' role of regulation will completely disappear after IPv4
exhaustion.

If transfer will be the new mean to obtain additional IPv4 address
space, and if RIR is the authority to register transfer records,
wouldn't this act as an incentive for LIRs to follow RIR policies?

RIRs' role simply switches from making allocations to reconizing
transfer, i.e. LIRs will not be allowed to transfer their records
(obtain IPv4 address space) if they don't follow RIR policies.

You mention that there may be alternative registries that provides
easier transfer without any contraints, and some people may indeed set
up such registry, but I don't quite see how people will immediately
trust an alternative registry to replace RIR registry.

To put it in short, as long as some means of obtaining IPv4 address is
accomodated (in this case, transfer of already distributed space), I'm
not sure if people will go as far as breaking as in your assumption,
even if some degree of contraints are added.

Just my thoughts on reading your paper.


izumi
JPNIC

Geoff Huston wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> At the ARIN meeting last week the question arose as to why the various 
> policy proposals related to address transfers in the different RIRs were 
> so different. I made some comments in response to this question from my 
> perspective and then I had some followup questions mailed to me, so I 
> thought maybe there is some value in writing my perspective up.
> 
> If you are interested its at: 
> http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2008-11/transfers.html
> 
> thanks,
> 
>   Geoff Huston
> 
>   DIsclaimer: I'm speaking for myself, again!
>