Re: [address-policy-wg] 2008-06 New Policy Proposal (Use of final /8)

[Fernando García Fernández <fernando.garcia@localhost]

The first phrase of the point 1 of the proposal states that:

³Each new LIR will receive IPv4 addresses which they can use for supporting
legacy IPv4 services to ensure their full presence on the IPv4 Internet
during the transition phase to IPv6². If they don¹t have IPv6 addresses how
are they going to do the transition?

And the RIPE actually uses power. The use power to coerce now when they ask
me to demonstrate that I really need new IPv4 when I ask for them (I need to
send an addressing plan, and justification for it). They would use a similar
power to coerce to see that new LIRs are implementing IPv6.

I think that power coerce in these situations is good.

And actually RIPE doesn¹t have LIRs in the United States so we can¹t vote
for Obama or McCain (though their decisions impact on us, but that is
another story to be discussed in the RIPE dinner).

Regards, Fernando.



El 15/10/08 18:27, "Randy Bush" randy@localhost escribió:

> García Fernández wrote:
>> I also agree that the policy should include some statements regarding IPv6
>> allocation.
>> 
>> In fact I think that existing LIRs have very well warned about the end of
>> the world^H^H^H^H^H IPv4 address space available so I think that the
>> proposal should be more in the lines of:
>> 
>> 1. New LIRs: Get the minimum allocation IF they already have a IPv6
>> allocation OR the ask for an IPv6 allocation in the same request.
> 
> as we are using power to coerce, i think they should agree to vote for
> obama.
> 
> randy

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