Re: [address-policy-wg] 2007-08 New Draft Document Published (Enabling Methods for Reallocation of IPv4 Resources)
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To: michael.dillon@localhost
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From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" jwkckid1@localhost
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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:51:38 -0700
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Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup
Michael and all,
Good arguments here Michael! And I agree, this proposed
transfer policy is a very bad idea for the reasons you gave
and much more. Creating a Casino for IPv4 addresses is
a recipe that may bleed over to IPv6 if the profit aspect is
attractive enough, not to mention perhaps bleeding over
to the application layer developers in pricing schemes.
michael.dillon@localhost wrote:
> > You are deliberately forestalling the possibility of new
> > entrants getting any IPv4 after exhaustion, never mind
> > existing operators for whom IPv4 pays employees' salaries. Is
> > this the right tradeoff for the industry?
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> New entrants typically want to see predictable prices or else
> they simply don't enter. Currently, the price for IPv4 addresses
> is predictable. After a transfer scheme is in place, and speculators
> take up the remaining free pool, the price of IPv4 will be wildly
> unpredictable. That situation will block new entrants.
>
> However, there is another aspect which involves IPv6. Large ISPs are
> already deploying IPv6 trials in order to be prepared for the day
> when they cannot grow their networks with IPv4. That day will probably
> come a bit sooner, when the price of IPv4 addresses skyrockets due
> to limited supply. But here's where it impacts potential new entrants.
>
> The large ISPs are not deploying IPv6 for a completely separate
> Internet.
> We are all including technology to allow the interoperating of the
> IPv4 and the IPv6 Internet, because we want to be able to connect
> customers using pure IPv6 networks, and still allow those customers
> to have full access to the IPv4 Internet. This means, that a new entrant
> into the Internet business, can realistically use IPv6 technology
> and expect to be able to buy full connectivity to all IPv4 and IPv6
> Internet sites from one of the larger ISPs. The price for IPv6 addresses
> is predictable (zero) and the price for the IPv6 service will also
> be predictable since it is being sold in a competitive market. It is
> highly likely that ISPs will offer IPv6 connectivity at a lower price
> than IPv4 connnectivity because it reduces the pressure on their
> legacy IPv4 infrastructure.
>
> Rejecting any and all policy changes which enable a market for IPv4
> addresses, does not lead to blocking new entrants. It may, in fact,
> create greater opportunities for new entrants since they will be
> able to avoid the costs and complexity of supporting both v4 and v6.
> They will leave that to the larger upstream ISPs, but at the same
> time they will be able to pay less than an IPv4 entrant would pay.
> This seems like a win-win situation all around.
>
> Please reject this transfer policy.
>
> --Michael Dillon
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