Re: [address-policy-wg] Revised 2007-01 moved back to Review Period (Direct Internet Resource Assignments to End Users from the RIPE NCC)

[Sascha Lenz slz@localhost]

Hi altogether,

Gert Doering schrieb:
> Hi APWG folks,
>
> this proposal keep being difficult for our processes.  
>
> We got a rebound from the WG chair collective, because they felt that 
> there was no explicit consensus for version *2* of the proposal, which had
> some signficant changes (inclusion of ERX in the text).
>
> Now this is v3, trying to work out the last wrinkles, and get it through
> the process properly, and we got *NO* comments on it.  
>
> "No comments" does not mean "consensus".  It means "nobody is interested,
> leave us alone with this".
>
> I think that this is a very important milestone, and it needs good backing
> by the community (or if you don't want it, it should be explicitely torn
> down).
>
> The main difference v2 -> v3 is that ERX space has been completely taken 
> out [because RIPE has no legal basis to enforce anything - we'll come back
> to this with a new proposal], and that there is a *new* document that 
> describes what to do with existing end-user assignments - which has exactly 
> the same intent as v2, but we can't put requirements for existing assignments 
> into a "new assignments" documents, so this needed cleaning up.
> So - please read the documents, as referenced in Ana's mail below, and then
> explicitely voice agreement or disagreement with 2007-01 v3.
>
> thanks,
[...]

the PDP we have starts to annoy me over this proposal.
Very sad.

My clear p.o.v., as private netizen, as consultant and as LIR still is:

We need a contractual relationship in those cases we're talking about 
here. So i still support this proposal - "2007-01 v3", even though i'm a 
little unhappy about all the redesigns and the political debate around it.
I still have one or two issues with the details, too (like we still 
don't have actual NUMBERS as in $$$ etc.), but i'm not that self-centric 
to stop the whole process about that.
If there's a problem, we can start again from there, AFTER THIS IS 
FINALLY IMPLEMENTED. Policies can be CHANGED again guys... politicians 
do it all the time...
PLEASE go on with this, now. It's a start at least.

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