Re: [address-policy-wg] 2008-01 New Policy Proposal (Assigning IPv6 PI to Every Inetnum Holder)

[Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda@localhost]

On 16 Jan 2008, at 20:01, Florian Weimer wrote:

[...]

> > > > - No PI assignments via LIRs. LIRs only manage PA IPv6.
> > > > - special membership in RIPE with an annual fee for PI holders
> > > How do you handle lack of payment?  Reuse the prefix?  That seems
> > > like a
> > > bad idea to me.
> > If this is a bad idea...
> >
> > > I would also see a mandate to keep current address information,
> > > including legal details (register of companies number etc.) in the
> > > WHOIS database.  RIPE NCC will investigate cases if proof is
> > > presented that something is wrong in the database (bouncing email,
> > > non-working phone number, bouncing snail mail, lack of matching  
> > > entry
> > > in the register of companies).
> > ... then what is the enforcement mechanism here?
> The same as above.  This would be an additional process, on top of the
> yearly fee, not a replacement.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Could you elaborate, please?

> > You've just defined a system where the RIPE NCC will guarantee the
> > uniqueness of address space for a one-time fee *and* allow  
> > registrants
> > to remain anonymous after the first 12 months. I can see a definite
> > market for something like this.
> We already face the problem that LIRs are somewhat pseudonymous.
> There's no easy way to determine which LIR controls which address
> blocks.
It's not all that hard. You can easily find all resources linked to an  
LIR's Organisation ID in the whois database. You can do it easily on  
the RIPE NCC's web site:
http://www.ripe.net/whois?-r+-K+-i+org+ORG-NCC1-RIPE

I've used the RIPE NCC's Organisation ID in this example but it's  
easily changed to the ID for whatever LIR you're interested in. You  
can find the Organisation ID of the LIR you're looking for by using a - 
L query from any IP address you know is allocated to them and looking  
for an organisation object that isn't the RIPE NCC's or IANA's.
Regards,

Leo Vegoda