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Re: [address-policy-wg] "Dirty" recycled network assigned

  • To: Max Tulyev president@localhost, address-policy-wg@localhost
  • From: David Conrad <david.conrad@localhost
  • Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:57:40 -0800

An "interesting" (in sort of the way the Ebola virus is "interesting")
problem that is going to become much more common as we start reallocating
previously allocated or otherwise flagged blocks.  Leo Vegoda has done a
couple of presentations on this.

Just imagine the fun folks who are going to get prefixes out of 1.0.0.0/8
are going to have.

Options I can think of:

1) Get everybody to transition to IPv6 (um, yeah).
2) Get all the folks who are running RBLs/DUNs to update their lists when
address status changes (slightly more realistic than (1)).
3) Get everybody to use reputation services like
http://www.karmasphere.com/, et al. (no, I'm not affiliated with them)
4) Get RPKI deployed to reduce the need for black list services (um, yeah.)
5) Get the folks who win the draw on prefixes to go around to every black
list service themselves (as they discover them) and convince the operator of
that list (somehow) to remove them (the default).

No good answers I'm aware of...

Regards,
-drc

On 1/16/08 9:28 AM, "Max Tulyev" president@localhost wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I just got an assignment for my client (large PI block). But this block
> is listed in all DNS RBLs and DUN lists, as it was in use till Oct'07 as
> dynamic DHCP pool of other big ISP.
> 
> So my client says they can't use this network, because mail service is
> blocked.
> 
> RIPE rejected my request to change this network to another one: "As we
> do understand how unfortunate this is for **********, there is nothing
> we can do about prefixes that appear on so called black lists."
> 
> How can I solve this?





 

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