Re: [address-policy-wg] 2008-01 New Policy Proposal (Assigning IPv6 PI to Every Inetnum Holder)

["Stream Service || Mark Scholten" info@localhost]

Hello,

Maybe it is an option to use the same system as used by PI space on IPv4.
Also more than a /48 should be possible with PI space on IPv6 (for example a
/44).

I'm not a LIR, but I will require to have PI space on IPv6 before I start
using it (I need the option to move IPs from network 1 to network 2 and the
option to have multiple uplink providers).

Please remember: the easier it is to use and the easier it is to get IPv6 
space the faster it will be used.

With kind regards, Met vriendelijke groet,

Mark Scholten
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcin Gondek" drixter@localhost
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:29 PM
Subject: RE: [address-policy-wg] 2008-01 New Policy Proposal (Assigning IPv6
PI to Every Inetnum Holder)


Hello,

So maybe we can make this way:
There is some membership free for PI user and then some yearly payment to
keep it working.
Please understand, not anyone have to be LIR

> First of all, I don't think the majority is afraid of the idea of PI
> itself (the old "carriers want to constrain their customers" myth), the
> majority is afraid of running it like it is currently done for IPv4 in
> the RIPE region. I'm talking about PI space that is visible in the DFZ
> here of course, unannounced PI space should mostly be covered by ULA.
 [...]
> but I don't think there is any legal loophole where you could apply it
> to the already assigned space.
>
> Bernhard

So maybe we can make this way:
Make some membership fee for PI user and then some yearly payment to keep it
working.
For example:
- 500E setup fee
- 100E for ASN request for this PI
Plus some kind monitoring, if PI addresses in request are requested for
public use, not internal then:
- have to be visible by RIPE router more than 75% time in year from date of
assignment + 1 month.
- 100E yearly maintenance
If there availability time is smaller than 75%, again there is a setup fee
or addresses backing to RIPE. Also ASN can be taken back to the RIPE.
If PI addresses are requested for internal usage:
- 200E yearly maintenance

Every PI-member can have only one /48 prefix if we need more, then have to
be a LIR, have to have a legal business in RIPE region and etc.

Then, RIPE make a special /32 where those /48 are stored (for easy
filtering).

Please understand, not everyone have to be LIR because they don't need it to
be, but they need PI address because they have >1 upstreams. It's very
popular here in Poland. Now I hearing for people: "We don't implement IPv6
because there is no PI procedure. We don't want to be a LIR."

I'm not a LIR, I just wondering, maybe someone will agree with me for this
PI idea.


Regards,

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