Re: [address-policy-wg] DRAFT: RIPE Community Resolution on IPv4 Depletion and Deployment of IPv6

[Sascha Lenz slz@localhost]

Hi,

Patrick Vande Walle schrieb:
> Florian Weimer wrote:
> > * Gert Doering:
> >   
> > > 2) We urge network operators and Internet Service Providers 
> > > (ISPs) to deploy IPv6 across their networks as soon as possible. 
> > > This deployment must include providing IPv6 access to End Users 
> > > and ensuring services are accessible by IPv6.
> > >     
> > Shouldn't this paragraph target RIPE members specifically? Or, put
> > differently, why are end users and software vendors excluded?
> >   
> Speaking as an end user, which probably does not qualify me as being
> part of the "RIPE Community":
>
> Agree with Florian's comments, and I would add hardware vendors to the
> list. As long as there are no commodity CPEs supporting IPv6, there is
> no incentive for ISPs to deploy IPv6 to their end users, especially
> those targetting the home users.
even though the statement cannot be more than political "blah-blah" 
without any real outcome :-), i want to join in that the wording SHOULD 
include at least vendors end end-suer, since they are the biggest 
problem (point of view: a Consultant).
Probably "network operators" is meant to include end-users, but that's 
not clear enough.
And i also see vendors as part of "the community" here, but probably 
they don't think they are addressed without explicitely mentioning it :-)
ISPs won't start deploying IPv6 more widely without end-users requiring 
it and vendors have a full (as in COMPLETE, WORKING) set of IPv6 capable 
devices, including SOHO CPEs.
...heck, i already have one upstream explicitely SHUTTING DOWN its IPv6 
(testbed) service (Allocation returned) without any production 
replacement since noone wants to have IPv6 connectivity...yes, big 
german business/resale ISP ... scary.
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