Re: [address-policy-wg] 2006-07 Discussion Period extended until 17 January 2007 (First Raise in IPv4 Assignment Window Size)

[Tiberiu Ungureanu <tiberiu.ungureanu@localhost]

On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 16:44 +0000, Andy Davidson wrote:
> On 13 Dec 2006, at 16:16, Leo Vegoda wrote:
> 
> > Several people raised concerns that new LIRs may not have  
> > sufficient experience to make good decisions with a /21 AW.
> 
> To appease those worriers, the policy could say that the AW growth  
> from 0 to /21 is only permitted if the LIR has at least one admin-c  
> who has been to RIPE LIR training ?

Look. There is e-learning in LIR portal. People can learn without going
to RIPE trainings. We should keep the policy as simple as possible.

I personally go to trainings because
a) I have a question to ask, and i'd rather ask it to a person than to
an email address
b) I work better if i know the face i'm emailing to.
c) (be honest) it's a good way to avoid work and get free coffee (and
food) for that. If there's a Training course close to the CO of the new
org, techs will be there. You don't need to force them to come. Just
advertise free coffee, no need to work.
d) All the training courses I attended ended with
ISP-TECHS-DRINKING-CABAL, and of course this ended with good new peering
agreements.
It is true there are new things that you can learn at LIR-TRAININGs but
there aren't many that aren't already explained in e-learning.


Plus... New orgs don't get much space to start with. I *think* they
currently get an initial assignment of /21. If they make bad
assignments, they will get their asses kicked next time when they
request IP space. And if they never request new ip space... there's no
way to keep them assign the space they got with or without the AW
of /21.

On the other hand, I also support the "Per-Contact-Person-AW" proposal.