Re: [address-policy-wg] Just say *NO* to PI space -- or how to make it lessdestructive

[Bernhard Schmidt berni@localhost]

Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet schrieb:

Hi,

>>> PI is for folks wanting to be independent. Independency is most of the
>>> time a bit more expensive.
>> PI space is free for life.
> Not really.
> 
> Quite a while ago the NCC stopped accepting PI requests from "walk-in"
> applicants (as we told them to do).
> 
> Since then an application for PI (and ASNs) can only be submitted by way
> of an LIR. And those assignments do count against their "size" calculation:

Yes, but only in the first year (no way else to do it, the LIR will not
have a customer/billing-relationship with the PI "owner" forever). And
at least a few LIRs don't even charge their customer in the first year
if they don't get pushed in the next billing category due to PI
requests. I know of a few ISPs that chose PI space over PA space (for
example with a subsidiary company as applicant) because it is cheaper in
the long term.

The RIRs either need to have a direct billing relationship with PI
holders or PI has to be transferable between LIRs (on whose bill it is
with a fixed amout, this billing point scheme is imho not suitable for
this), otherwise a recurring fee is not possible.

Regards,
Bernhard