RE: [ipv6-wg] Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: Andre's guide to fix IPv6

[Jørgen Hovland <]

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From: Hans Petter Holen [
	    
	    
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Sent: 28. november 2005 19:16

Jørgen Hovland wrote:

>> -
>> 1. No PI. _Only_ network operators get a prefix.
>
>I am an operator of a network - do I get a prefix ? (we have lots of
>computers and need lots of IP addresses: currently the 5 PCs, 2
>printers, a phone and some PDA and a server online)
>
>I guess you need to define the criteria in some other way. Perhaps
>beeing registered with the national regulator

True. 
The existing RIPE 200 customer rule for ipv6 PA for instance.


> 2. Customers of network operators can at any time change provider and
> take their assigned prefix with them. The new provider will announce
> it as a more specific overriding the aggregate. If the customer
> decides to get multiple providers, then the network operator with the
> /32 could also announce a more specific.
>
> In the country I live in I can change telecom provider and take my
> phone number with me to the new provider. Why shouldn't I be able to
> do that with internet providers?

>Maybe we live in the same country ? 
We sure do (well at least since a few months ago)!

> The  National Reference DataBase
>NRDB will take care of the routing (http://www.nrdb.no - at some point
>in time I guess they will move to ENUM - so perhaps jump directly to
>such a solution. But then it will be more difficult to implement the
>payment model they have. (It costs the operator more to be connected to
>this database  than to get IP addressess from RIPE in addition there is
>a quarterly service fee to port numbers and even a per lookup fee)
>
>> Yes, it will somehow create millions/billions of prefixes (atleasat
>> with todays routing technology/protocols). Network operators should be
>> able to handle that hence rule #1.
>
>Why should my last provider carry my traffic after I switch provider ? 
>In POTS this may work because there is elaborate interconnect agreements
>between the providers - I dont know of too may ISPs doing pr user
>accounting of transit any more.

The only thing the last provider has to pay for is the LIR fee for their
/32, not the traffic. More specific routes usually get priority unless
Andre’s magic 32 constant is implemented. I was talking about putting these
prefixes in dfz – or not. You decide by the amount of interconnections you
got. Then you would also probably have to decide a payment model, but it is
not my business what you do.

>From the consumer point of view - this is great - from a routing point
>of view and ISP interconnect point of view - I am not quite sure...

Yes that’s a question I wasn’t even sure about myself.


Cheers,

Joergen Hovland