Re: [address-policy-wg] 200 customer requirements for IPv6

[Marc van Selm <]

On Thursday 17 November 2005 17:15, Marc van Selm wrote:
> Following up on the discussion during RIPE-51, I have not heard much
> discussion on "200 customer requirement for IPv6" rule. So I would like to
> hear your views on this.

Nice to see this discussion reviving. From what I hear I can draw the 
following conclusions for NATO (and large enterprices with a private WAN):
1) RIPE-NCC would be happy with a summarised version of our plan and does not 
care about the details of 200+ /48 assignments. As soon as Leo Vegoda is back 
from his leave, I'll know for sure if RIPE-NCC will accept it. But I get the 
feeling they will.
2) The 200-rule, although strongly defended during RIPE-51, remains 
controversial. I guess another qualifier must be introduced to satisfy both 
camps.
3) PI IPv6 space seems to be the solution to the large enterprice problem. If 
the RIR would allocate it directly to the end-customer, orgs like NATO do not 
have to become a LIR. They just have a block that they "own" and can contract 
out to an ISP of their choice to route (and rebid the contract every few 
years or so as the procurement rules require) or route (part of it) via 
private circuits.

I'd say replace the 200-rule with something like the intention to use at least 
X /48 subnets distributed over Y or more geographical locations while using 
private WAN infrastructure or more than one ISP.

I think that X and Y should be not so large. (To the side, we could accept a 
smaller block, like a /34, also for now but we all know that growth in the 
next 10 years is imminent so RIPE-NCC would reserve the whole /32 and 
probably more anyway.) Anyway, I think something like this would do the same 
as the 200-rule was intended for while is it not such a straight jacket. 
Although I think the action to write something about that was on somebody 
else... What do you all think about this approach? Especially the Nee sayers 
during RIPE-51 that have been a bit quiet until now.

Marc
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Marc van Selm
NATO C3 Agency
CIS Division
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